Japan: Wii Hits 1m; Double PS3’s 0.5m

[Zeus]

Stats released by Enterbain reveal that the Wii sold DOUBLE the amount of PS3's in Japan during last year. The Wii racked up almost 1 million sales, while the PS3 struggled to achieve 0.5m in the region. However supply issues and the significantly higher price are no doubt reasons for Sony's performance.



The Tokyo research and publishing company said Nintendo sold 989,118 units in Japan since the Wii launched on Dec. 2. Sony, badly constrained by supply issues and higher priced than Wii, sold 466,716 PlayStation 3 consoles since Nov. 11.


News Source: <a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4493&Itemid=2" target="_blank">Next-Gen.biz</a>

[XviD]

lol, the best part is that the wii isn't even accessible anywhere atm without pre-ordering :) and still it doubled the sales

[Azariel]

Sad that 360 doesn't produce enough Jap style games to satisfy the demand. :eek:

[TheClockWork]

Sad that 360 doesn't produce enough Jap style games to satisfy the demand. :eek:

It's just the anti-western wave from the JAP :) They got Mistwalker so what do they need more for the japanese market ? A better image :)

[re4de2ye0]

Hopefully that will change soon, I think they are starting to make a little headway in Japan. It is all a matter of satisfying the gamers needs over there unfortunately cranking out RPGs takes a while. It is all about the developers.

[Azariel]

It's just the anti-western wave from the JAP :) They got Mistwalker so what do they need more for the japanese market ? A better image :)

Is not "anti-western" wave on japan, but about electronic entertainement, North America has little to compete on what the Jap people like, or prefer, thigns that make North American "embrassed", Kiddy,childish, doesn't fit on the same category on Jap market, while FPS, "pump-it-u GFX games" and slim RPG's like Oblivion doesn't feed the public. is not one or two games wthat will make the demand grows, they need a Base, that didn't come on Xbox, looks just grew very little on 360. Is so much closed mind thing "anti-western" wave..is not , is jsut that X-box think like North American market, and they don't focus on Jap market. If you don't like soemthign "made in US & Ai ":rolleyes: , doesn't make you "anti western', common... :rolleyes: so childish.
But we did "this" game...please who buys a console for one no-name game.. 360 needs at least many Animes, OVa and Manga franchise, that could warm the thign a little, thing is, Microsoft still doesn't care enough.
If an "anit western" wave exist on Japan, explain I-pod. :cool:

[TheClockWork]

Hmmmm... but what about "Lost Odyssey" and "Blue Dragon"? Both are focusing on the JAP market. I think that Microsoft, as a name, is just not as popular as Sony or Nintendo in Japan and the Japanese are really not that tolerant when it's about western electronics in comparison with their electronics. If these games would be released on PS3, every japanese would buy them :). That's what I, falsely, called the "anti-western" wave.

But yes, infact, the japanese are really fans of some american products but they have just much more enthusiasm when it's about a product from their own country. You COULD call that patriotism, but I would call that japanese mentality.

Hmmm... I think MP3-player are mostly from America, I don't know any japanese competition, thats, really, not the same.

[technosexual]

Hmmmm... but what about "Lost Odyssey" and "Blue Dragon"? Both are focusing on the JAP market. I think that Microsoft, as a name, is just not as popular as Sony in Japan and the Japanese are really not that tolerant when it's about western electronics in comparison with their electronics. If these games would be released on PS3, every japanese would buy them :). That's what I, falsely, called the "anti-western" wave.

But yes, infact, the japanese are really fans of some american products but they have just much more enthusiasm when it's a product from their own country. You COULD call that patriotism, but I would call that japanese mentality.

Hmmm... I think MP3-player are mostly from America, I don't know any japanese competition, thats, really, not the same.

how many people would go buy a new console for 1 game? and if you actually noticed 360 sales spiked a little in japan when blue dragon came out, same with dead rising. but for most i dont think its enough

obviously if they came out on ps3 more people in japan would buy them, cause they either have a ps3, or already waiting to get one.

[TheClockWork]

how many people would go buy a new console for 1 game? and if you actually noticed 360 sales spiked a little in japan when blue dragon came out, same with dead rising. but for most i dont think its enough

obviously if they came out on ps3 more people in japan would buy them, cause they either have a ps3, or already waiting to get one.

Of course, if you have a console you will look out for other games you like and will get some. And I personally think that, with the not so positive feature of the Final Fantasy Community about FF13, that many japanese will buy the XBOX 360 ONLY for Lost Odyssey. Dead or Alive 4 is also not that much focusing on the american market etc.

No I don't noticed 360 sales going up when blue dragon came out, of course I think that more games focusing on the japanese market would increase sales in japan but I think that the XBOX360 would never beat the PS3, personally in Japan and that just because the Image of Microsoft is not that good. I mean Sony and Nintendo are really companys which are, somekind, of controlling the youth of japan :).

[Azariel]

Hmmmm... but what about "Lost Odyssey" and "Blue Dragon"? Both are focusing on the JAP market. I think that Microsoft, as a name, is just not as popular as Sony in Japan and the Japanese are really not that tolerant when it's about western electronics in comparison with their electronics. If these games would be released on PS3, every japanese would buy them :). That's what I, falsely, called the "anti-western" wave.


Those games are really low value for japanese marketin,g as "main" games aiming Japanese they fail, they are just a too much small "bait". Not enough. believe Japanese lvoe games with crazy ideas, and even simple thigns but with more fun value makes them more happy than cinematografic Racing games based on "real cars" or War games based second, first war, or medieval age. ASk Nintendogs...look to how many mahjong gam,e sthey purchase, go adn look for Motehr 3, or see the success of Wii.


But yes, infact, the japanese are really fans of some american products but they have just much more enthusiasm when it's a product from their own country. You COULD call that patriotism, but I would call that japanese mentality.

Hmmm... I think MP3-player are mostly from America, I don't know any japanese competition.

They are fans for american products, south-american, european products and anything exotic enough, But Sony PS2, and nintendo, has on its sleeve more japanese exclussive titles, and more franchises thant 360 could even think exist, Dream or be serious about to purchase.
Just go and see how much popular simple games and old franchises are out there. Is about the culture. Gaming culture on Japane is much more wide than North American vision can embrace.
Just some ones I can nominate:
Manga Titles and post Anime titles, characters :
Naruto, Bleach, One piece, Zillion, Majinga z, Anotehr Centurie stories ( Gundams, Gundams, Gundams ) , Ultraman series, Doraemon, Evangelion,Shounen, Yuri, Ecchi, simulations of life Mange /Anime based Kind of RPG, etc Karaokes JAp version, Baseball, Jap leage
Party games, Fishing simulators, Championshoips, Detective ( japanese allocation ) Educative systems, etc
Nintendo Franchises, Pokemon, Mario, etcetcetc.

They are all same or even more popular than titles like GTA, Call of Duty, Oblivion, etcetcetc..
While M$ think "one" game to reign over all, they don't count that the jap market is more more diversificated than the US and Ai market more homogeneous on a general view.

[lobo32332]

He's got a really good point there. Hell, I never really cared for the X-Box for that very reason...I was already kinda tired of all the games that were flagship tittles, and must owns (FPS, Racing, even Fable, a game I was looking forward to ended up being very much like most other console RPGs I've played...Even the KOTOR series got a little old after looking at all the skills and such and seeing its based heavily on the developers previous D&D work). I do find it kind of hard to believe they have a grudge against American electronics, our cultures swap so much of everything as it is.

[TheClockWork]

believe Japanese lvoe games with crazy ideas, and even simple thigns but with more fun value makes them more happy than cinematografic Racing games based on "real cars" or War games based second, first war, or medieval age.

The thing is :) I don't think that you can totally set a game into it's scenario. You are saying that the japanese just have another culture, yes I agree with you, but thats exactly where my critic goes for. As an european gamer, I also play games based on this whole anime thing and of course also western games. I think it's VERY important to seperate the gameplay with the scenario. Only because its Naruto it doesn't have actually a good gameplay and somekind of gameplay makes fun for everyone. Take for example MetalGearSolid, is that some kind of a simple funny thing?

As I said, my culture (as an european) is also really, totally different from the japanese. I'm absolutely tolerant about the japanese culture, but imo they are really very closed. When you want fun with games, you shouldn't really rate the whole game based on the scenario and I think that is really influencing the XBOX360 sales.


They are fans for american products, south-american, european products and anything exotic enough.

What is enough !? Sry but I cann't get any clue out of it.


But Sony PS2, and nintendo, has on its sleeve more japanese exclussive titles, and more franchises thant 360 could even think exist, Dream or be serious about to purchase.

It's about Current Gen Consoles, XBOX360, PS3 and Wii not about PS2 or PS1 or even SNES.


Just go and see how much popular simple games and old franchises are out there. Is about the culture. Gaming culture on Japane is much more wide than North American vision can embrace.

Yes, exactly. You are absolutely right and that's some kind of problem. Having a large gaming culture is really, great, but that doesn't mean that they aren't open for other games, in the case of japan, I think that they are very closed.

[TheClockWork]

He's got a really good point there. Hell, I never really cared for the X-Box for that very reason...I was already kinda tired of all the games that were flagship tittles, and must owns (FPS, Racing, even Fable, a game I was looking forward to ended up being very much like most other console RPGs I've played...Even the KOTOR series got a little old after looking at all the skills and such and seeing its based heavily on the developers previous D&D work). I do find it kind of hard to believe they have a grudge against American electronics, our cultures swap so much of everything as it is.

I corrected that, I don't think that japan HATES america or europe. But they are, when it's about gaming, IMO very very intolerant :), which means, everyone has to do a little jump when you play a game which is from a totally different culture, but maybe you really like that game afterwards. Maybe you really like the gameplay or the battle system etc.

[PSPWAD]

and must owns
So you don't like console gaming at all? Every console is pretty much made off of a few "must own" games, Nintendo has "Zelda", Sony has "Final Fantasy", and Microsoft has "Halo" and now "Gears of War". Aside from those there are ports to all the consoles of the 3rd party "must own" games like Burnout, Soul Calibur, etc. There really aren't many "must own" games aside from the masses of random noname games that appeared on the PS2 because everyone and their mom developed games for the PS2...

[Azariel]

You didn't get it :) , is nout being "closed" ( exactly the opposite ..Xbox on japan looks very simpleton on variety of games ) ..and about "Naruto"...was judt an example... but as naruot and Bleach, Tenisu no ojisama and so, theya re characters presents on teh popualr Manga titles on Japan, that almost every one reads there. Think if a game like "scrubs" get released , people know the series and would purchase teg ame to play with character they are familiar with. Not so much if You say "Mission impossible" on japan ..
Look, why Eu and US and Ai people tend to like Cod? or WWII games or soccer, basketball games? 'cause identification... as example. Now, if you don't offer a console that provides identification, or offer empathy to the public you are aiming... you screw it. Japanese are not very closed, but is because you are looking from a European/occidental gamer point of view.. but from a jap point of view 360 doesn't fit onw aht they could take with identification... empathy.
Think you grew up knowing colors Red, Blue and Pink. But they are used to see more more colours, so to find fun on the same veriety of Dark Blue plus, or Red open minus make teh games look like the same,, what about the other colours?
For a Jap player, a game like COD 1, 2,3, Medal of honor ( numbers and releases here ), Halo 1 &2, Quake adn unreal Tournament, there is nothing to identify with, mroe than a smal portion of players. But give to them something is inside their day after day culture, they will puchase if looks promissing. More simple, how many Mahjong games do you play every week? :) Did u play mother 3? no...why? They are not isndei your menu, if are the only avaliable type of games...so you would rather prefer to play soemthing more "familiar" and what you can 'touch".

[lobo32332]

I'm not really understanding why you are taking my quote out of context and applying it to other consoles. I happened to like a fair amount of the PS2 and GC exclusives, and flagship tittle in the last match up...Like I said, the X-Box was the only one that didn't really grab my attention. Not to say I don't enjoy X-Box games, just not enough to warrant picking one up (having a good PC was another reason for not doing so...I was kinda amazed M$ let a lot of X-Box games onto the PC).

[TheClockWork]

You didn't get it :) , is nout being "closed" ( exactly the opposite ..Xbox on japan looks very simpleton on variety of games ) ..and about "Naruto"...was judt an example... but as naruot and Bleach, Tenisu no ojisama and so, theya re characters presents on teh popualr Manga titles on Japan, that almost every one reads there. Think if a game like "scrubs" get released , people know the series and would purchase teg ame to play with character they are familiar with. Not so much if You say "Mission impossible" on japan ..
Look, why Eu and US and Ai people tend to like Cod? or WWII games or soccer, basketball games? 'cause identification... as example. Now, if you don't offer a console that provides identification, or offer empathy to the public you are aiming... you screw it. Japanese are not very closed, but is because you are looking from a European/occidental gamer point of view.. but from a jap point of view 360 doesn't fit onw aht they could take with identification... empathy.
Think you grew up knowing colors Red, Blue and Pink. But they are used to see more more colours, so to find fun on the same veriety of Dark Blue plus, or Red open minus make teh games look like the same,, what about the other colours?
For a Jap player, a game like COD 1, 2,3, Medal of honor ( numbers and releases here ), Halo 1 &2, Quake adn unreal Tournament, there is nothing to identify with, mroe than a smal portion of players. But give to them something is inside their day after day culture, they will puchase if looks promissing. More simple, how many Mahjong games do you play every week? :) Did u play mother 3? no...why? They are not isndei your menu, if are the only avaliable type of games...so you would rather prefer to play soemthing more "familiar" and what you can 'touch".

I thought I explained my opinion :) I think you still don't unterstand it but maybe there's a communication problem. I totally disagree with you at that situation.

btw. I didn't played Mother 3 because its japanese :P not because I don't like the japanese culture. I would try to play Mother 3 just as I really want to play Tingle RPG. That's what I said the whole time, I like the japanese culture also if its totally different. For example I prefer Ouendan over EBA :). What I say is that the japanese gaming culture is more intolerant than for example the european gaming culture and not because it's different. For example Games like StarCraft proofe that the gameplay makes the difference not only the scenario. The question is, do you have the tolerance to jump over the scenario? I don't think that the Scenario of WarCraft 3 or StarCraft is completely "their thing" and they are playing this games "like hell".

And you are not the only guy who knows some japanese games, also if you have an anime avatar :) so try to speak to people with more respect when you want a discussion.

[Azariel]

Theya re not .. but you can see this way, from the other side of the glass, as you prefer Ouendan, therre are plaeyrs tehre that prefer US released versiosn , type of games too. But is about the game being native or not... Japanese or not. The same. You can't play japanese, not all of them can play english, they would rather prefer a console that is native and more easy to find game s adn releases they would like to purchase. Like Music, you lvie on your country and have your own preferences, they do have them too. So Xbox mst 'isten"first instead forgetting the improtant and smaller titles, and franchise that Japanese love so much.

[Azariel]

And you are not the only guy who knows some japanese games, also if you have an anime avatar :) so try to speak to people with more respect when you want a discussion.

U beg your pardon? when I insulted someone here?

[Rajveer]

*Still waits for madonnaproject to somehow turn this post around and say that the Wii is doing better because it's a gimmick...*

[Havok154]

*Still waits for madonnaproject to somehow turn this post around and say that the Wii is doing better because it's a gimmick...*

Of course, and it's more fun because it's a gimmick, and the stores can't get PS3's off their shelfs because it's too hardcore for the gaming public. We just can't handle the true power that is the PS3 so we have to shamefully play Wii all day to make us still feel worthy. ;)

[spida2889]

ok who cares