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Zeus

11-29-2006, 12:25 AM

The following nutter (pictured below) destroyed his Nintendo Wii due to gripes with 'Elite Beat Agent's' and othery other sucky games DS that he's ever played. He has derived that Nintendo is a company he hates.

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Thanks to Elite Beat Agents (and the general suckiness of every other DS game I've ever played, I've come to the conclusion that Nintendo is a company that I hate.) So, after destroying my DS, I touched that screen like I really wanted to: with a screwdriver.

Via: <A href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannohung/301469777/" target="_Blank">FlickR</a>

evlspcmk

11-29-2006, 12:35 AM

Trashcat

11-29-2006, 12:36 AM

I hate nintendo, yet I just gave them 150 bucks, very smart. At the moment only destroying a ps3 is a true act of hate because sony loses money on it.

Arakon

11-29-2006, 12:46 AM

it's mental idiots like this that should be locked up for being a danger to society. the way he looks, today it's a DS, tomorrow he's ripping the arms off a baby.

Phigmeta

11-29-2006, 12:59 AM

Silversand

11-29-2006, 01:01 AM

So the guy got angry because he sucks at video games. He reacts to his anger by breaking his DSlite. He then reacts to his act of violence by blaming it on Nintendo for making crappy games. That doesn't make himself feel any better so he then has to hate Nintendo because he feels so small (because of his stupid actions) and hating Nintendo makes himself feel bigger.

MrViewtiful

11-29-2006, 01:10 AM

Front page it says he breaks his nintendo wii.. should be ds. just helping out :D

gopherbob

11-29-2006, 03:26 AM

vinnieg007

11-29-2006, 03:31 AM

I don't know what portable system he is comparing the DS's games to but as far as hand held game play, which is way more important than graphics, the DS owns all. Music games are not for everyone but the DS has more good games than the PSP will ever have... mark my words!

...and I do own both :p

I agree to what he said, the PSP also sucks when it comes to the battery life, so I prefer the DS better when it comes to hand helds.

shakuhatch

11-29-2006, 03:38 AM

I'm guessing he bought Cooking Mama thinking it was Zelda..

11111

11-29-2006, 04:04 AM

I don't know what portable system he is comparing the DS's games to but as far as hand held game play, which is way more important than graphics, the DS owns all. Music games are not for everyone but the DS has more good games than the PSP will ever have... mark my words!

...and I do own both :p

same with me i own both. i can see why people would like the psp more now that a ton more games came out for psp but hands down i love my ds alot more. i've already gotten 3 of my other friends buying one and they're not easy to convince on systems at all.

Havok154

11-29-2006, 04:23 AM

hmmm AHHH no i get it

He is an ATTENTION WHORE ...

Dude ... get a shave ... lose some weight, find this crazy thing called style, get laid and stop taking your sexual aggressions out on a f-ing game console

geeez .... at least rub one out like the rest of us guys .... freak

Agreed, Attention whore who thinks he'll be cool because he now has a video of himself online "going against the grain". In other words, he's a fat loser who has a low self esteem so he makes himself feel better by taking something popular and that a lot of people like just to get a reaction and to get people to talk about him. Too bad he's still a fat loser. Plus, that sh*t-eating grin is really obnoxious, makes him look smug and full of himself.

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 04:37 AM

trashcat, maybe its because he's like me, a gamer and wants to play games, so you have to try/buy the console, and just like my opinion onthe DS, the games do suck, very few games are worth buying.

DS games are:
Short
Poor Sound quality (my speakers allways crackled or is this the sound)
Poor graphics
Action Games tricky with pen
DPAD (which most games use) doesnt give full directional control
Not all games take advantage of the pen

You all can say sure, thats why the DS outsells the PSP, but think about it, nintendo has been the number 1 handheld console (well only) on the market so nintendo have a bigger market, Sony is new to the handheld market and have to build a market, just like Microsoft had with the XBOX, and seems the 360 isnt doing much better either (but the PS2 beats both Nintendo GC and Xbox inc 360).

SteveNZ

11-29-2006, 05:13 AM

Obviously overweight, check. Gumby glasses, check. Stupid goatee, check. Hoodie, check. Pointlessly destroying something you could sell instead, check. Yep, all the prerequisites of a freakin' loser.

WalkingTiger

11-29-2006, 05:42 AM

sigh... I suppose there's always a person looking for attention and their fifteen minutes of fame everywhere... I think I'd rather get my fifteen minutes of fame for something noteworthy other than pointlessly destroying a DS to get people to notice me on a webpage... Talk about desperate for attention...

~WalkingTiger

11-29-2006, 05:56 AM

wow, how cool, smashing up a cheap and freely available console, smashmy..wannabe. I expect him on takemyvirginity.com very soon.

Elite beat agents is a very 'skillful' game, its not one of these save every 2 seconds, restart exactly where u left off modern trash games that the fat moron probably plays all day on his xbox while munching on doritos and shouting his mom to bring him some pie.
If you cant play the game, blame the player, not the console.

metalgod

11-29-2006, 08:21 AM

Mr.Do!

11-29-2006, 08:37 AM

What a hammer head this guy is..

#1 he thinks elite beat agents sucks?? That game rules!

#2 he probably just sucks at playing games in general.

Oh well.. His money lost not mine

And DS games definately do not suck.. They are great for handheld action. Anyone who bought a DS for console like gameplay are the stupid ones.. not nintendo.

lappen

11-29-2006, 09:09 AM

why is this even posted as news?, to much articles like this really brings down the overall impression of maxconsole

Templedog

11-29-2006, 09:29 AM

Douche Nozzel of the Day!

MadonnaProject

11-29-2006, 09:35 AM

hoo hoo...good good.

Psphreak

11-29-2006, 10:39 AM

any one else thinks this guy has a wierd resembelence to the porn star "the milf hunter"
http://f5.putfile.com/6/16209333299-thumb.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2814672)

i mean the guys a fair bit fatter but the look is still there

Nah, he actually looks like a fat version of Screech from Saved by the bell http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/dustin_d.jpg

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 11:04 AM

naaa it looks more like Seth Rogen:
http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/nitds.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/you__me_and_dupree/seth_rogen/dupree.jpg

TheClockWork

11-29-2006, 11:08 AM

If you know this guy, you know that he says that every Console and Company sux, he also speak in videos while he wash himself in a bathroom. :)

Or is it really him!?

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 11:12 AM

TheCockWork ?????????? i do hope you dont think i recon to know this guy, LOL wish i did:D

TheClockWork

11-29-2006, 11:51 AM

...Sony is new to the handheld market and have to build a market, just like Microsoft had with the XBOX...

Thats true, but actually the PSP is on the market for how long ?
12. Dec 2004 so about 2 Years. So actually within these two years I think the XBOX had alot more success then PSP. Also Sony is a name, Sony has created the PS1 and PS2 which are both extremely popular ;). Microsoft had no name in the console business before and the XBOX was IMHO a extremely big success for MS.

Actually, thats right the DS doesnt have alot of graphical power (I don't think that the sound is sooo bad). Anyway the DS has really some nice games and of course with the stylus they are extremely fun/addicting. There are games like FF3 or Tetris, they could also be made on the PSP. The DS has nowaday, no problem. The lack of graphical power isn't really a problem due to the fact that when you talk about gameplay, you can still realize all what you can realize on PSP, it just looks like **** in comparison with the PSP. The main factor on the DS is just gameplay and not more. You have what you have on the PSP (just no Nubb / Analog Stick) + a Touch Pad which CAN be really nice integrated (for ex. Yoshis Touch'n'Go, Ouendan, Trauma Center etc.). In that fact I personal think :) That the DS is some kind of "winning" because there are just so damn many games and cause its easy to develop for, they are always coming more. Also because it's easy to develop for, you will see fresh ideas from new companys. A fresh idea is mostly coming from a new company because in the current market no one wants to pay 6million for a game which could sell very bad (due to the fact that it has something may like others dislike). Of course, the DS is some kind of ultra-japanese-machine :) so all "good" games are coming from japan and have their flair which isn't everyones thing.

To your List:

Short
Poor Sound quality (my speakers allways crackled or is this the sound)
Poor graphics
Action Games tricky with pen
DPAD (which most games use) doesnt give full directional control
Not all games take advantage of the pen

Short, that's the question of the game, you just cant say a handheld has short games sry :) I think you can play Ouendan / Elite Beat Agents hours if you want really all done and there are also games which are long and some which are not.

Poor Sound Quality, I own a DS Lite and I don't had any problems with sound. Actually the wanna-be-sorround is some kind of neat.

Poor graphics, compared to another system yes :) When I play Children of Mana, it just looks nice. For 2D, No. But about 3D, yes (Linear Sampling sux)

Action Games tricky with pen, in fact not, if you play games like Metroid Hunters for example it's really awesome, I was suprised how good that works, but again it's a question for a game and not to a system.

DPAD, yes I don't really like it. But the DPAD at the PSP is imo just as bad :).

Not all games take advantage of the pen, yes, indeed some games really aren't using it, that's sad. Also the MIC is often unused.

I think the main problem on PSP is that the graphics/power isn't soooo good. It's actually not even PS2 and that's imo a problem if you want a handheld like the PSP. Also of course, the PSP is just offering games which you can also play on a console so infact, its not really worth buying ONLY for games. The big plus is of course that it is a multimedia handheld, you can watch movies etc. but imo again, when someone wants to see a movie, he watches it on a TV and NOT on the PSP screen (Which is in fact really good). Also the Design of the PSP is great ( which imho is vice-verca @ PS3). And when its about homebrew fans and stuff like this I think the GP2X just replaces the PSP. I personaly think, if the PSP has better graphics then the PS2, they would see alot more units than now.

And what I read on the sources I have is that the DS is actually selling damn good so I don't think that actually its just such a bad system. Anyway there are actually really good games coming out for the PSP, I think Lumines / Loco Roco were both really nice and also MPO will get Sony alot more cash.

I personaly doesn't own a PSP, because I have a PS2 and I for myself don't find a game which really just shout at me with: "I'm just godlike, buy the handheld and play me!NOW!". I only own the DS because there is Children of Mana :) which is imho another beautiful Seiken Densetsu part and which done the shouting for me :).

And again, thats my opinion, I could be mistaken. Thx for reading.

And like you see Retard... Retroboy (Damn, the feel of beeing mature was so close), there's a way to tell your opinion without " LOL THE OTHA SYSTEM I DONT OWN JUST SUX I SOLD THAM FOR 10 DOLLARZ AT EBAY AND NOBODY BUYED BECOZ ITS SO FECKING CHEAP LOLZELOR ".

And for the topic. The guy which buyed the DS Lite should had informed himself, what he can expect and what not.

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 11:58 AM

TheCockWork, im not reading all that cr@p, im not even going to reply to your Sh!t, ive posted a pick of a guy who looks more like the guy who did this to his DS.

Get over it, he broke it, it looks like him.

"and people wonder why i love to call people wiitards":o

TheClockWork

11-29-2006, 12:01 PM

TheCockWork, im not reading all that cr@p, im not even going to reply to your Sh!t, ive posted a pick of a guy who looks more like the guy who did this to his DS.

l0l you are really one peace of ****. I wasn't actually flaming but I think thats the only way a stupid idiot like you is listening :).

Get over it, he broke it, it looks like him.

"and people wonder why i love to call people wiitards"

What are you talking about ?

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 12:03 PM

No TheCockWork, your going on, lets see the first reply after me posting pics, your the only one whos found a problem, im just telling you, I AM NOT ARGUEING WITH YOU.

Have fun.

TheClockWork

11-29-2006, 12:05 PM

The first post of my, refers to the News not to you. WTF are you talking ? I didn't found any problem !? I was just refering to your first post:

trashcat, maybe its because he's like me, a gamer and wants to play games, so you have to try/buy the console, and just like my opinion onthe DS, the games do suck, very few games are worth buying.

DS games are:
Short
Poor Sound quality (my speakers allways crackled or is this the sound)
Poor graphics
Action Games tricky with pen
DPAD (which most games use) doesnt give full directional control
Not all games take advantage of the pen

You all can say sure, thats why the DS outsells the PSP, but think about it, nintendo has been the number 1 handheld console (well only) on the market so nintendo have a bigger market, Sony is new to the handheld market and have to build a market, just like Microsoft had with the XBOX, and seems the 360 isnt doing much better either (but the PS2 beats both Nintendo GC and Xbox inc 360).

You wrote your opinion I wrote mine, thats actually the use of a board. I didn't used any kind of flaming in my context. Someones really paranoid :)

Retroboy

11-29-2006, 12:11 PM

TheCockWork

yea really this sound like your replying to that and not the pics:

If you know this guy, you know that he says that every Console and Company sux, he also speak in videos while he wash himself in a bathroom.

Or is it really him!?

then i said i hope you dont think i know this guy whish i did, then you still go on, and yet somehow even more, ive posted and youve edited adding more to your post (quotes of me) to cover that you now are mentioning what i said back then.

When before it never had none of that, it had my post, then you, then me.

Just as verification, last edited time to my posted time.

Stop finding ways of arguing with me.

TheClockWork

11-29-2006, 12:13 PM

Aehhmm... I thought it's this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DdnPoZVc3Q sry but imho they just look as the same and it wouldn't suprise me because he makes alot of videos telling people that system X just sucks. He is extremely provocative and makes satire. (btw. the youtube link is the ONLY link I find that quickly about him)

then i said i hope you dont think i know this guy whish i did, then you still go on, and yet somehow even more, ive posted and youve edited adding more to your post (quotes of me) to cover that you now are mentioning what i said back then.

I really don't know wheres your problem. I wrote my first post without reading your 2nd post, I read your 1st post. I made my 1st post, and then my 2nd post in reaction of your first post. Why do I actually need to tell you that!? Are you just paranoid or stupid?

Trashcat

11-29-2006, 01:17 PM

Cripple fight!

hatman

11-29-2006, 03:30 PM

Buttt, a moded psp is far better and more capable then a moded DS.
(and the screen is very nice)

That guy who broke his DS is an idiot and suffers from an anger management problem??

And his comment "Nintendo sucks!" makes me LOL
A comment like that on a company like Nintendo only discredits any
opinion the guy has about gaming period.

Nintendo may not of pioneered gaming but it definitely revolutionized it.
It also features the most likeable gaming characters out of all other platforms!!

A biggie. Can Nintendo possibly get any more publicity on the WII?

Question....Did Wii pay for the publicity or is the system actually that good?

Truth be told!!! Look out other platforms, Nintendo Wii overall I think will do better in sales then PS3 and 360 !!!

Guaranteed!!!!:cool:

Jeriam

11-29-2006, 06:36 PM

Christ, you guys will bash each other over anything. :rolleyes:

(1) RetroBoy, the DS has a lot of great games. Considerably more than the PSP. This is not Sony's fault, and it doesn't mean the PSP's a shitty system, it was just overpriced at release and had a lot of features (UMD, anyone?) that didn't catch on - the DS is the cheap, easy choice and has New Super Mario Bros, Trauma Center, Phoenix Wright, Ouendan, Elite Beat Agents, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Mario Kart, Clubhouse Games, Contact, one great Castlevania game and another on the way, Meteos, two good Tony Hawk games, Metroid Prime: Hunters, Starfox, Animal Crossing, Age of Empires, Advance Wars, a Zelda game on the way... just a lot of really high-quality games that appeal to a wide range of people. No, they're not 3D, and no, nobody cares. If you have an argument as to why fun, cheap gaming is bad, I have yet to hear you say it.

(2) The guy in the picture is the same guy who makes a YouTube video about EVERY console saying it sucks and giving a bunch of ludicrous, BS reasons why. It's the same as the guys who film themselves smashing a PS3 just to be dicks. It's satire. It's a joke. He's ****ing with you.

TomIsADeftone

11-29-2006, 07:27 PM

Retroboy, i love all the excuses as too why the DS is a shoddy piece of **** and the 'real' handheld leader psp is being treated unjustedly.

Personally, i firmly beleive the world are once again waking up to the notion that Nintendo make stonking good consoles, hence why my store is constantly selling out of DS's in the lead up to X-Mas as soon as they're in stock and we're being told to push the PSP as hard as we can.

All this bollox about Sony not really being in the Handheld market, what a load of ****, Everyone knows that the DS was possibly the biggest risk in computer game history but it's paid off. While sony made a portable PS2, who actually wants that? personnaly i want to be able to play new games on my handheld not play fecking gaming compilations of previous home console hits.

pyros

11-29-2006, 10:11 PM

There is always someone out there ready to do the unnecessary just to seek enough "fame" to satisfy their so-called "self-esteem". To think there are many other kids out there wanting to own a DS, PSP, or any other console because they actually want to play it but their parents don't have the money and you have idiots like him breakin' them. People like him are the reason why I give or buy consoles for many kids I know and meet even if its my console because I know what its like to want something and not capable of buying.

Also what is up with the whole "Wiitards" and "Retroboytard" discussions lately on this forum, everyone has his or her likings, dislikes, and approvals. No need for console wars.

Rockman_Joey

11-29-2006, 11:50 PM

any one else thinks this guy has a wierd resembelence to the porn star "the milf hunter"
http://f5.putfile.com/6/16209333299-thumb.gif (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2814672)

i mean the guys a fair bit fatter but the look is still there

LOL!!! Yeah I know what ya mean!!! HAHAH!! LMAO

Anyways, appears this guys an idiot. DS doesnt suck at all. Heck, Ive been playing it more than my PSP *just noticed new Devhook Release*.

TheClockWork

11-30-2006, 08:24 AM

Also what is up with the whole "Wiitards" and "Retroboytard" discussions lately on this forum, everyone has his or her likings, dislikes, and approvals. No need for console wars.

There's no Console War, it's Anti-Retroboy. I love all consoles, actual Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft can't talk so much shite like Retroboy.

But I confirm with you, but there's some kind of "grade". You can like one console more then another (which is just natural). But the question here tho is, how tollerant are you, how much do you want to make propaganda for a console and how much do you say that console X just sux. Also how much do you identify with a piece of electronic. Retroboy is a guy who runs over the line so the best thing is to tell him in every single post that is a useless piece of shite. Sry but there's no other way. Look at the thousand threads at maxconsole, he is actuall flaming at every single Thread. Think about it and actually he is the biggest idiot :). There's no one talking so much shite than him. A fact.

You will see, soon there's another: "j0 m8 feck that sh!t tha consol just sux, pitty da fool" or something useless **** like that.
And Retroboytard is Satire for his Wiitard thing :) Which is actually, one of the unfunniest words i've ever heard. Also he had a Signature with this timmy from Southpark with a Wiimote in his hands so he is actually making fun of handicapped persons which is imho just sick. All what he says is on a really low level. Tolerating him is like tolerating a racist.

Retroboy

11-30-2006, 10:00 AM

LOL THECOCKWORKS, Wiitard is just natural, hmmm retroboytard, now that just sounds lame.

In fact, wasnt you the one who started the flaming after my pic posting, then you were the one who started editing making out you meant something else?

Yea, after i posted the pics, you could have left it, but you didnt, you turned this into an arguement.

And as for my views on the Wii, therre 100% true, I do not see how a company can bring out a console almost identical to its predacessor and slap a remote to it.

TheClockWork

11-30-2006, 10:22 AM

wasnt you the one who started the flaming after my pic posting

LOL RETROBOY, The funny thing is that you are just as stupid as at the beginning of the thread. Learn to read and to understand.

Yea, after i posted the pics, you could have left it, but you didnt, you turned this into an arguement.

I turned this into an argument!? And again: Do you actually know what you are talking? I'll help you a little: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

started editing
English isn't my native language so I have to edit my posts very often to get what I actually want to say.

(It's really hard to read that shite you are writing because your english is actually bader than mines.)

And now for your understanding:
"If you know this guy, you know that he says that every Console and Company sux, he also speak in videos while he wash himself in a bathroom."
Refers to the Man in the News NOT to your fucking pics nor yourself. I don't care.

"Or is it really him!?" - A question to myself because I was not sure if THE GUY ON THE PIC and THE GUY I MEAN is the same.

Stop making an idiot out of yourself.
The 1st nor the 2nd post should "harm" you. But because you are a paranoid piece of shite I have to tell you again: You suck, M8.

Retroboy

11-30-2006, 10:43 AM

you never posted the link to the clip in that topic, dont even think of editing it into it m8, your post sounded to me as if i knew the guy i posted a pic of, ive taken a screen shot just in case you have a 909 moment and edit it into the post and say its was allways there.

TheClockWork

11-30-2006, 10:46 AM

Retroboy

11-30-2006, 10:50 AM

I've posted the link later to explain the situation clearer: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showpost.php?p=301599&postcount=32

My 2nd post was my opinion @ your first post WITHOUT flaming. If you read it you will find that there is no negative text in it. :P

yup so, when i said i hope you dont think i know this guy (as you didnt link anything) it was easy to assume you were refaring to my pic, then you took it out of hand even more, plus editing.

You cant refare to something then link to it later and expect everyone to know that you mean this guy (2 or more posts later) people take a post as they see it, no link, who, what guy hmmm its after my post so he must mean this guy.

TheClockWork

11-30-2006, 11:04 AM

You cant refare to something then link to it later and expect everyone to know that you mean this guy (2 or more posts later) people take a post as they see it, no link, who, what guy hmmm its after my post so he must mean this guy.

Actually as I already mentioned, I wasn't reading your post. Infact, I wanted to post the link later because, if you believe me or not :) I've lost the link, I asked someone to send me the URL and that tooked time and when I got it, I was busy posting replys. If you read my 2nd post I think it would be clear that I meant something else. Because then my 2 posts wouldn't made any sense.

And if you don't want that moments like this does happen, just stop posting ignorant Stuff on thousands of posts and making all members of this board to enemys. I just want to speak with other users about News without someone who just tells 10 negative **** sentence again and again. Thats annoying and your points also have no prove. You want to talk with users about stuff, but in fact you stay to your opinion build your little defense and thats it. I was observing other, older posts. When someones explains his opinion you just shout hes a fuking Fanboy. There were so many people who tried to speak with you, in a friendly way. Nothing happend. You just posted again and again. So if you want peace, stop beeing offensive. But if you still go on, you will have alot of these flamewars in the next days and I tell you I can make alot more pics. It's your decision. I'll delete the pics of my signature as long as you won't flame around in WII/XBOX360 or PS3 topics.

And you can't tell me the Wii users are the ones who WANT to flame with you. That's just nonsense.

Retroboy

11-30-2006, 11:16 AM

Stop TheCockWork, your post was not refaring to my 1st post, there for with no link was easy to assume you were refaring to the 2nd post (with pics)

Remember lol i have screen grabs, just in case:D

Jeriam

11-30-2006, 12:44 PM

Sooo any reply to my post (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showpost.php?p=302258&postcount=35) forthcoming, Retroboy? I mean, I don't expect one, but I thought I'd ask.

Retroboy

12-01-2006, 04:40 AM

naa you wont get a reply, nintendo fans dont talk to people who already agree with something, they will happily slate someone "me" who doesnt love every single nintendo product.

Jeriam

12-02-2006, 03:24 AM

naa you wont get a reply, nintendo fans dont talk to people who already agree with something, they will happily slate someone "me" who doesnt love every single nintendo product.
Nice. So negative generalizations are fine as long as YOU'RE making them instead of trying to come forward with a rational argument. Color me surprised. :rolleyes:

The DS is neither a gimmick nor a poorly designed system. The exceedingly positive reviews of many of its games back up its sales numbers in saying this. There's a lot of great gaming on there, both with and without the stylus.

Claiming the PSP lost to it "because Nintendo was already entrenched in the market" is the epitome of sour grapes. The PSP lost because it was overpriced and its games weren't as good.

Retroboy

12-04-2006, 04:28 AM

Jeriam

12-04-2006, 05:58 AM

so maybe then games that are both psp and ds, wonder why the psp version gets the higher rating, the only problem the psp has is its a higher prices, also its sony.

you can expect almost 90% of handheld gamers to be nintendo fans, now looking at nintendo fans they hate sony, god even the wii, they all love it even tho its a last gen remade with a new controller, if sony or ms did this it would be slated.
Games that are both DS and PSP get better ratings on the PSP because its graphics are better. That's no big surprise; it's a more powerful system. I don't particularly want to play, for instance, Star Trek: Tactical Assault or Tomb Raider: Legend on EITHER system, but I'm not shocked to hear that the PSP versions of those are better.

Handling ports is not the strong suit of the DS. Similarly, handling ports will not be the strong suit of the Wii. Nintendo's systems have ALWAYS done better with games designed specifically for them, and those games are very frequently awesome games. Games designed specifically for the DS get better reviews and better sales than anything on the PSP because they're better games than what got developed for the PSP. You can claim they got better reviews "because the reviewers love Nintendo and hate Sony" or something, but that's a pretty hard claim to back up given the low scores a lot of Wii games are (deservedly) getting.

I don't hate Sony, I'm just not willing to pay a high price to play handheld versions of games I've already played on the home consoles - I'd much rather pay less to play great, original games on the DS. Loco Roco looks pretty cool, but that's about the only thing the PSP has that I'd be attracted to, vs Trauma Center, Phoenix Wright, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Elite Beat Agents, Meteos, Starfox, Clubhouse Games, Contact... those games are great because they're designed specifically for a portable format (vs being ports from home consoles) and stylus input, which no other system has.

Games that are great on the Wii will be the ones specifically designed for it, as well. Nobody's going to argue that the ports are what make a Nintendo system good.

Regardless, thanks for at least replying this time. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, there are plenty of games I want to play on the X360/PS3. I'm just not willing to put the kind of money into those systems that MS/Sony expect me to. It's just gaming. Nintendo lets me have fun doing it for cheap, so they get my business. The only issue I have is with people who pass their machines off as "crap" just because they're selling successfully to a different market than MS and Sony are targeting (or in the case of the DS, because the "gimmick system" that everybody laughed at has absolutely crushed the competition).

Retroboy

12-04-2006, 06:22 AM

yes so again, nintendo decide that to offer a innovative controll style you have to have games that are worse compared to another system without the innovative controlls.

Sorry id rather play a game that looks cleaner/better and not have the stylus.

Both the Wii and DS have great new control schemes, but lack the improved graphical gaming experience.

Time and time ive said that nintendo would do better if they offered both the powerfuller system + new controll.

But they dont, becuase nintendo want cheap to make products that give a massive easy profit, and take the controll style away, the system wouldnt do as good.

But its this attitude nitnendo have that i dont like, we wont spend money to offer you a actuall excellent console, but please give us your money to double our profits.

also people go on about the ports, yea the PSP has them, but its not all ports, lol so your not willing to pay full hwack for a wii, when 50% of its games are ported from either xbox or GC lol.

But the point for the PSP getting ports is because you cant play your PS2 on a bus can you.

12-04-2006, 06:53 AM

Time and time ive said that nintendo would do better if they offered both the powerfuller system + new controll.

how exactly could they be doing any better than they are now? the ds is outselling every other console in every region by a large margin. the wii has sold over 1 million in less than 2 weeks, and the euro release is yet to come. they have never been in a stronger position. looks to me like they made the right decisions.

Retroboy

12-04-2006, 07:06 AM

never been in a stronger possition, because they offering the fans cheap producst with fancy controll styles.

Again take them away from the DS and Wii and maybe then the consoles will be seen for what they are.

Thats it, nintendo find away how to make a lame machine sell, therfor doubleing its profits, and thats just plain arrogance, being greedy instead of taking it one step further by offering almost the best system, not just a new control style.

12-04-2006, 07:14 AM

Retroboy

12-04-2006, 07:29 AM

that didnt answer my question.

people are happy to buy the ds over a psp. fact. nintendo did what wrong again?.

estimated 4 million wii to be sold in just over a month. nintendo did what wrong again?

thats only becuase of,

Cost
And almost 90% of the handheld gamers where nintendo, so tell me one nintendo fan who hasnt slated the PS3 for HD, but love HD possible coming to the Wii.

Take the controllers away from the DS and the Wii, what do you see as a console.

This is my point, nintendo have cut production costs, giving a poor gaming quality but added a new controll, which is still cheap.

Remember when nintendo used to be best.

Where are these days, ohh no, nintendo GC didnt pick up, so nintendo are scared to actually put money into a console, to give you something that will last a 5year console war, im sorry ive played GC qualtiy games for 6 years now, things change people move on, if they didnt we'd still be playing 4 bit graphic games.

12-04-2006, 07:43 AM

cost/profit/hd/whatever. the ds and wii are nintendo's best successes of the last decade. a job well done.
if you dont like their methods then don't buy their consoles. millions of people would beg to differ, but it's their money and they are happy to spend it how they feel.

Retroboy

12-04-2006, 08:22 AM

id say its their money feck it lets not spend it, wiitards will love us know matter what.

Sweet bugery nations, its a nintendoholic.

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 04:14 AM

Take the controllers away from the DS and the Wii, what do you see as a console.

This is my point, nintendo have cut production costs, giving a poor gaming quality but added a new controll, which is still cheap.
Why on earth would I "take the controllers away from the DS and the Wii"? Even as a theoretical experiment? The controllers are the point of those systems.

Why do you think that weaker graphics means "a poor gaming quality"? For that matter, why do you think that better graphics means any sort of improvement AT ALL? I certainly don't. I still have a better time replaying Chrono Trigger on the SNES than with 90% of the RPG's released today. It's not as pretty, but it's a better game.

Maybe that's the disconnect in our argument. When I say the games on the DS are better than the games on the PSP - again, the exclusive games, not the ports - I'm talking about the gameplay, not the graphics. I don't give a damn how the game looks, if it plays better, and I'd rather play a good 2D game than a bad 3D one any day of the week.

Here's a radical thought: when you're not dedicating all your effort, time, money and manpower to making your making your games LOOK better, you have more resources available to make them PLAY better.

You're absolutely right that the DS and the Wii are doing so well partly because they're so cheap. People who don't give a damn how great a game looks are quite happy to pay less and get a game that plays better. Why shouldn't they?

I'm not arguing that there should never be graphics improvements - obviously, like you say, we're not still playing 4 bit games. But Nintendo has decided that controller improvements are more important at this point, and maybe they're right. They took a risk deciding to prioritize new controls over graphics with the DS - everybody expected the PSP to beat them. Everybody. But the risk paid off; people were willing to play games that weren't as impressive graphically in order to get a new gameplay experience for less money. After all, cheaper system + cheaper games = you get to buy more games!

I don't think the Wii will "beat" the PS3 (which is a silly argument anyhow), but it's pretty clear that not everybody thinks that a few thousand extra polygons is worth a $600 console. A lot of us just don't care about the graphics enough to pay that much for them. In 5 years, those will be the cheap graphics. We can wait.

I can't compare the Wii's gameplay to the PS3's gameplay yet (and neither can you) because they're both way too close to launch; give it a year, and we'll see which system has better games. But I can tell you that I have more fun playing the DS than any other console I've ever played, period, no matter how sexy the graphics were. To me, that means their design decisions make sense.

Havok154

12-05-2006, 04:41 AM

thats only becuase of,

Cost
And almost 90% of the handheld gamers where nintendo, so tell me one nintendo fan who hasnt slated the PS3 for HD, but love HD possible coming to the Wii.

Take the controllers away from the DS and the Wii, what do you see as a console.

This is my point, nintendo have cut production costs, giving a poor gaming quality but added a new controll, which is still cheap.

Remember when nintendo used to be best.

Where are these days, ohh no, nintendo GC didnt pick up, so nintendo are scared to actually put money into a console, to give you something that will last a 5year console war, im sorry ive played GC qualtiy games for 6 years now, things change people move on, if they didnt we'd still be playing 4 bit graphic games.

Ok, lets also take away the Dual analog controllers from the other systems and give them NES controllers. You think you will want to play 90% of the games on them then? Of course not, so why would you take away the controllers on these systems when the point of them is to make games more fun then they would be without them. I don't want to play Shadow of Colossus with a D-pad and I don't want to use a standard controller on my Wii or DS. No matter how high the res is or how pretty the game is, I wouldn't want to play it with lesser controls.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 05:41 AM

the reason i say take the controller away from the wii, is becuase thats all that it has good going for it.

WOW sony offer a new controller, people arent buyin it becuase of that, theyre buying it becuase the system has improved, the way games look have improved, you not buying a slightly improved XBOX with a new controller are you.

Nintendo fans are allways happy with what nintendo do, even tho your games are going to look exactly the same as what youve been playing for the past what 5 years, but this time your using a remote.

OK lets do that LOL, easy money

12-05-2006, 05:56 AM

Nintendo fans are allways happy with what nintendo do, even tho your games are going to look exactly the same as what youve been playing for the past what 5 years, but this time your using a remote.

OK lets do that LOL, easy money

nintendo fans wernt really happy with the gamecube, or the n64, hence their poor sales.

its more than nintendo fans that are buying the wii.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 06:02 AM

and why were nintendo fans not happy with the N64 or GC, N64 revolutionized the pad, but the games were limited again, not many brilliant games for the N64, i can name just 10 i think that i really loved on my n64.

The GC id be lucky to name 10 games that i really loved on the GC.

Id youd expect me to go and buy a system that look the same but this time with a remote to play them.

Sure.

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 07:35 AM

I don't understand why you can't see that a lot of us don't care that the games don't look as good as the PS3's. It's not that we "don't get it" - yes, Nintendo is saving money (theirs and OURS) by having less amazing graphics! A lot of us don't mind! And by "a lot of us", I mean the MILLIONS of people who chose the DS over the PSP, for starters, and the millions of people who will buy the Wii (either in addition to or instead of another console).

Obviously you're completely unable to get past the "OMG teh graphix!!!" nonsense, and also unable to believe that anyone else could either. I can't help you there. By sacrificing graphics and overpowered hardware, Nintendo's been able to develop two fun new control systems and offer them at affordable prices, and people are loving them for it. Your loss for not being able to see it, I suppose. :rolleyes:

It would be unfair of me not to admit, however, that Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops does look very, very good. That's the first game on the PSP I think I actually wish I could play, and I'm sorry I don't know anyone who has a PSP to be able to try it out. Maybe some day I'll be able to pick up a system used and give it a try. In the meantime, I've got a lot of other good games to play.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 07:54 AM

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 08:39 AM

becuase you claim alsorts, sony being arrogant, lol more like nintendo were not doing this end of, instead were making a new way of playing games.

Nice if nintendo actually offered a next gen system not a remote.
Next gen is not all about graphics.

Next gen is not all about graphics.

Next gen is not all about graphics.

Next gen is not all about graphics.

Just seeing if repetition helps. ;)

And yes, Sony IS arrogant. So is Nintendo. That has nothing to do with whether either of them can make a good console.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 08:48 AM

next gen is about improved consoles which since day one have been graphic improvment, audio, control fmvs.

nintendo is just a remote.

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 09:22 AM

next gen is about improved consoles which since day one have been graphic improvment, audio, control fmvs.

nintendo is just a remote.
For crying out loud, we're arguing definitions now? "Next gen" is defined as "being in the generation of consoles that come out at the same time". If it's an upgrade from the last one, it's "next gen". Nevermind that Nintendo has repeatedly stated, specifically, that they aren't TRYING to compete with MS/Sony on a graphical level, and sales and reviews clearly indicate that people are fine with that.

But okay, let's go with your "definition". Graphic improvement - the Wii produces better graphics than the Gamecube. It should, based on its hardware, be capable of better graphics than the original XBox. So it passes that test (of having better graphics than the GC/Xbox/PS2, all consoles of the previous gen) whether it competes with PS3/X360 or not.

Audio, I have no idea. Couldn't care less. The two games I've played on the Wii sound fine to me, and it has been praised in reviews for good audio even if the speaker in the Wiimote isn't that great. Again, though, don't care.

Control - obviously, this is where the Wii puts pretty much all of its innovation, and it's a much more "improved" control scheme than PS3 or X360 has. With the classic controller, it can handle any control system Sony or MS can implement, plus everything the Wiimote lets it do.

I'm hoping that FMV stands for something other than full motion video. If you're actually claiming that improvement in full motion video is a next-gen requirement, that's just laughable.

Honestly, you don't seem to have a point in ANY of this discussion other than that Nintendo put all their resources into a new control system, and not nearly as much into graphics, and that ticks you off. So what? It doesn't tick off millions of other people. You don't want one, don't buy one. Your personal preference does not make the Wii (or, in this thread, the DS) a bad system any more than my personal preference makes the PS3 a bad system. What's your obsession with telling other people that how they spend their money is "wrong"?

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 09:41 AM

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 09:54 AM

yes and next gen consoles have allways been superior to its last gen, not just a new controller.

sony has had loads of games with different controllers on the PS2 didnt make it a next gen machine each time a new controll style came out.
You're not even reading what I say anymore. The Wii is more powerful graphically than the Gamecube. It should be able to handle graphics better than the Cube, original XBox, or the PS2. Just because it isn't as powerful as PS3/X360 doesn't make it "not an upgrade" from the Cube.

But since you're choosing to respond with one-or-two line technicalities rather than actually formulate any sort of rational argument about the stuff I'm responding with, I guess we're done here. I've got Call of Duty 3 waiting for me when I get home from work, and hopefully Trauma Center in the mail from Gamefly as well. I'm excited. :D Adios, enjoy your masturbatory "this system rocks" / "this system is lame" discussions. Good games are good games.

PS: Totally unconnected to this discussion, the Zelda upgrade linked in your sig looks pretty sweet. Wish they had done something like that for the Zelda collectors edition disk on the Cube.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 10:04 AM

no becuase you say its more graphically powerfull than the GC, erm only slightly look at all the wii titles comming soon, erm what do they look like, xbox the most running at 720.

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 10:47 AM

no becuase you say its more graphically powerfull than the GC, erm only slightly look at all the wii titles comming soon, erm what do they look like, xbox the most running at 720.
*Laugh* Riiight, sure.

These three images are Call of Duty 3 on the original XBox:

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/745/745185/call-of-duty-3-review-20061109063324261.jpg
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/745/745185/call-of-duty-3-review-20061109063336901.jpg
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/745/745185/call-of-duty-3-review-20061109063346682.jpg

These three images are Call of Duty 3 on the Wii:

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/746/746145/call-of-duty-3-20061115000004277.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/737/737689/call-of-duty-3-20061006114013302.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/737/737689/call-of-duty-3-20061006114010755.jpg

The XBox looks as good as the Wii? C'mon, tell me another one. :rolleyes:

Wii doesn't look half as good as PS3 or X360, but yes, it definitely looks better than the previous gen, including the XBox.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 10:55 AM

using completely different pics, you see they look the same other than youve piced wii pics to be more open areas with location detail ect.

Ive played COD3 on my xbox and when i see wii pics i cant see a masiive improvement at all, unlike comparing it to my 360.

Jeriam

12-05-2006, 11:06 AM

Oh forget it, this has gone on too long. Nobody said it was a "massive" improvement over the XBox, including me, though it IS a considerable improvement over the Gamecube, since the XBox was significantly more powerful than the GC and the Wii is slightly more powerful than the XBox.

XBox > Gamecube, and Wii > XBox, therefore Wii >> Gamecube.

But you're obviously fanatical about this for reasons that make no sense (other than that you apparently feel ripped off that Nintendo didn't make a $400 or $600 system with great graphics) and are unwilling to accept that lots of people think what they've done is great, both with the DS and the Wii.

Besides, this was originally a DS thread. So carry on with your... I don't know, whatever you're doing, trying to prevent people from buying a system they like I guess?, I'll let you have the last word and pick this up in another thread some other time. The people reading are capable of deciding between our positions for themselves.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 11:07 AM

no ive been getting slated for saying its a slight improvement to last gen, all it has new is the remote.

12-05-2006, 11:30 AM

no ive been getting slated for saying its a slight improvement to last gen, all it has new is the remote.
and 1.1 million sales tell me thats all it needs. it will be 2 mill by the end of the week.

Retroboy

12-05-2006, 11:33 AM

and 1.1 million sales tell me thats all it needs. it will be 2 mill by the end of the week.

and again, whos been the main handheld gaming compnay, sony or nintendo, erm lets see then people who have played handhelds have mainly been GBA so its bound that 60% of those are nintendo fans, the rest are gamers who seem to have also baught the psp, nintendo fans will never buy anything other than nintendo products.

But again with the DS instead of only adding a pen, nice to actually imporve the games graphics aswell as blocky bitmap (i can draw in MS paint better than this) textures.

12-05-2006, 11:44 AM

and again, whos been the main handheld gaming compnay, sony or nintendo, erm lets see then people who have played handhelds have mainly been GBA so its bound that 60% of those are nintendo fans, the rest are gamers who seem to have also baught the psp, nintendo fans will never buy anything other than nintendo products.

But again with the DS instead of only adding a pen, nice to actually imporve the games graphics aswell as blocky bitmap (i can draw in MS paint better than this) textures.

gibberish. gamers, non nintendo diehards, women, kids, young and old are buyng he ds and wii, they are not mindwashed zombies who buy anythin with a nintendo badge. if they were then why did the cube 'fail'? they are buying what they chose to buy, what appeals to them. nintendo are providing what the mass market wants. sony have failed to do this.

blocky bitmaps? can u draw this :http://www.generationmp3.com/generationds/images/jeux/childmana2.jpg

Retroboy

12-06-2006, 04:45 AM

ok 909 sony failed, erm other than the PSP name me one nintendo console that has beat the Sony, the n64 didnt, the GC definatley didnt, and till the wii/PS3 is world wide and near its end we can see which wins.

Nintendo do not offer to a wider market, why because the GC failed due to lack of games.

So ok then, you saying this, what about the new pokemon for DS and GBA, theyre exactly the same, nintendo made it for both console to make more money, they should have just made the GBA version as the DS plays GBA, and they could program the cart with touch screen controls and dpad/buttons at the same time.

Dont tell me they cant as ive tested plenty of ds homebrew that play like this, it just nintendo been greedy, people assumingthe DS version will be better.

DS
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/234/929407_20060823_screen015.jpg

GBA
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/262/reviews/929408_20060920_screen002.jpg

See exactly the same, different colour name, wow i guess thats just like every pokemon game nintendo have made, exactly the same game but one with only fire pokemon, earth pokemon, water pokemon.:o

I can definately see the difference in these pics and the one you put, lol blocky bitmap, id say these are more blocky bitmap m8.

12-06-2006, 05:17 AM

they are offering to a wider market with the ds, and its a big success. exactly the same idea is beind tried with the wii.

no idea why you gave me the pokemon lecture.

Retroboy

12-06-2006, 05:40 AM

they are offering to a wider market with the ds, and its a big success. exactly the same idea is beind tried with the wii.

no idea why you gave me the pokemon lecture.

lol becuase you mentioned on game on a sony console and said it was bitmappy, lol when nintendo is worse for it on the DS, you make out again they offer to a wider market how? how come like all nintendo consoles the ds is classed as a kids console because majority of its games are for kids/teens.

this is why the GC did bad lack of games, the DS is sucessfull becuase its cheaper and that sony have never made a handheld before so its hard to compete against nintendo who have been the #1 handheld for decades.

The fact is you mentioned a game, i posted a game thats even worse, so whats your point, dont go making out a game is bitmappy when nintendo have even worse.

I couldnt draw the pic you posted (especially in bitmap) but the pokemon ones i can.

APPS

12-06-2006, 12:21 PM

12-06-2006, 02:21 PM

lol becuase you mentioned on game on a sony console and said it was bitmappy, lol when nintendo is worse for it on the DS, you make out again they offer to a wider market how? how come like all nintendo consoles the ds is classed as a kids console because majority of its games are for kids/teens.

when did i mention a PSP game was 'bitmappy'?

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 06:27 AM

when did i mention a PSP game was 'bitmappy'?

Back @ you d!ck, find where i said the pic you posted was PSP, i said sony, which you refared to as bitmappy when LOL nintendo is even worse LOL.

12-07-2006, 06:33 AM

Back @ you d!ck, find where i said the pic you posted was PSP, i said sony, which you refared to as bitmappy when LOL nintendo is even worse LOL.

trying a bit hard to prove me wrong arnt we?

ok so when did i say a sony game was bitmappy or posteda pic of a sony game, or whatever retarded phase u wish to use.

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 06:59 AM

trying a bit hard to prove me wrong arnt we?

ok so when did i say a sony game was bitmappy or posteda pic of a sony game, or whatever retarded phase u wish to use.

nintendo are providing what the mass market wants. sony have failed to do this.

blocky bitmaps? can u draw this

Sounds like sony fail to do this, and then post a bit mappy game of which i dont know, maybe is a game on a sony console.

i posted a nintendo game which like almost all nintendo games are kids games, this to you is nintendo offering to a wider range, my ass, if that was the case why does the GC lack games??

If it offers it doesnt lack.

12-07-2006, 07:19 AM

LOL!!!!111 thats a picture from children of mana u dipsh!t LOL!!!!1111, LOL!!!!!eleven. its a DS game LOL!!!!1111. I never once implyed it was from a sony game. you were talking about DS games being blocky so i posted that as an example of how great 2D graphics can look ON THE DS.

I didnt say anything about GC games appealing to a broader market either, i was talking about the DS doing so which is why its selling so well. LOL.

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 07:33 AM

12-07-2006, 07:42 AM

yeah, its so "gba quality" that you mistook it for a PSP game.

PWNED! LOL!!!!11

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 08:06 AM

yeah, its so "gba quality" that you mistook it for a PSP game.

PWNED! LOL!!!!11

erm when i talk about a comapny then post a pic straight after it, its so easy to mistake you wiitarded little pr!ck.

12-07-2006, 08:09 AM

yup, easy if your st0000pid. ROFL!!!111

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 08:18 AM

yup, easy if your st0000pid. ROFL!!!111
no d!ck W33d its simply, when you talk about how much you wish you could shove a nintendo console even further up your a$$, then go on about sony being lame, and post a pic calling it bitmappy.

Hmm simple to miss interperet, lol but even posting a pic like that must be such a good game as i couldnt even tell if it was DS or Snes, or early PSX.

If you wanted to make sure your point was made, you should have named the game F3ckh3ad!

12-07-2006, 08:28 AM

Hmm simple to miss interperet, lol but even posting a pic like that must be such a good game as i couldnt even tell if it was DS or Snes, or early PSX.

Or a PSP game, which you thought it was LOL!!!!!111, even tho psp games are widescreen and thats CLEARLY 4:3 LOL!!!!!11111

PWNED TO TEH MAX!!!1111

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 08:38 AM

Or a PSP game, which you thought it was LOL!!!!!111, even tho psp games are widescreen and thats CLEARLY 4:3 LOL!!!!!11111

PWNED TO TEH MAX!!!1111

grow up, i never said it was a psp game did i, go on quote where i said it was psp, i assumed after your usual i hate sony bull cr@p then link a game, its easy to assume its a game for a sony product.

again never said psp.

12-07-2006, 08:52 AM

grow up, i never said it was a psp game did i, go on quote where i said it was psp, i assumed after your usual i hate sony bull cr@p then link a game, its easy to assume its a game for a sony product.

again never said psp.

getting bored now, but since the topic you bought up was how blocky and 'bitmappy' DS games were and that you could draw better then that, i posted a pic of a game asking if you could draw it. Its not frigging rocket science to work out that im meaning the DS is it? LOL ;)

done with this thread, it was just for my entertainment. have the last word if you want, throw some more childish abuse, do what you like. you only make yourself look more of an idiot. You should read what bitmap actually means to since you have miss used the word about 10 times already.

have a nice day.

Retroboy

12-07-2006, 08:59 AM

getting bored now, but since the topic you bought up was how blocky and 'bitmappy' DS games were and that you could draw better then that, i posted a pic of a game asking if you could draw it. Its not frigging rocket science to work out that im meaning the DS is it? LOL ;)

done with this thread, it was just for my entertainment. have the last word if you want, throw some more childish abuse, do what you like. you only make yourself look more of an idiot. You should read what bitmap actually means to since you have miss used the word about 10 times already.

have a nice day.

yea take a look at mario, metroid, RE DS nintendags ect theyre blocky texture eg detail beign squary i can dray them in paint, 3d game textures tit.

so excuse me mr fancy pants f3ck sake.

Jeriam

12-07-2006, 12:57 PM

Christ you guys, give it a rest :rolleyes: ;)

Retroboy thinks the DS sucks. Let him. He can rest secure in his assumption that he's right and 30 million happy DS owners are wrong. Won't hurt us or our gaming a bit.

Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin is awesome, on a slightly different topic. Well worth checking out.

vinnieg007

12-08-2006, 02:10 AM

In terms of gaming, the graphics are nothing without good gameplay, I am a very happy DS owner because of the great gameplay it offers, there may be some games that have incredibly blocky graphics, but some games could find their way around the system limits of the DS and make an incredible game out of it. This is just my opinion, each of us has a right to speak out. So if they just want to destroy their DS due to the sucky games, its their money for all I care, they can do what they want with their consoles.