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swisstony123
07-02-2006, 12:36 PM
Add another one to the evergrowing list of dead psp's!!
Oh well i was gutted but it's only a toy......that's what i keep telling myself?!? Everything went fine left the cutting of the trace til last and.....i slipped bye bye psp i could bridge the gap but this install is insane enough already and it was a baaaaad slip!!
I would say to anyone out there who is thinking of taking this on forget it! Unless you really have the equipment and the expierience this one is for the genuine pro's I thought 14 years soldering/modding expierience would be enough! Plus sending it to a Mod shop means if they screw it up it's a new psp!! So has anyone out there got it working? I mean fully installed psp back together and the 1.5 firmware flashed to the chip anyone!?!:( or is this one giant hoax!!?!? (i doubt the hoax bit!!)

whackawookie
07-02-2006, 02:13 PM
welcome to the club. Im done trying to pry inside the psp, my new one will be handed over to modchipstore the second i get information from them. This is the only system i haven't been able to mod on my own so im a little upset but what can you do

unicorn025
07-02-2006, 03:12 PM
well im working on mines now wish me luck so far scape 3 traces all good, using

a 15x microscope stencil nife (works faster then pricesion screwdriver) i'll be

soldering with a 15 watt iron and using high tech rosin core silver bearing solder (.022 dia)

did not relize how many pieces the psp had took me a 45 minute to take it apart.\

also i'm using a piece off cardbord to brush off the shavings off the trace so i can see the next one bettter.

that's all for now, will let you know if a have a sucesfull install or not.

swisstony123
07-02-2006, 03:45 PM
well im working on mines now wish me luck so far scape 3 traces all good, using

a 15x microscope stencil nife (works faster then pricesion screwdriver) i'll be

soldering with a 15 watt iron and using high tech rosin core silver bearing solder (.022 dia)

did not relize how many pieces the psp had took me a 45 minute to take it apart.\

also i'm using a piece off cardbord to brush off the shavings off the trace so i can see the next one bettter.

that's all for now, will let you know if a have a sucesfull install or not.

Just concentrate, don't get distracted or let anyone distract you it's sooo easy to make a mistake take plenty of breaks and dont rush but i'm sure you probably know all this It's just I think these things are the most important! It's a good start having the 15x microscope I was using a 10x jewlers eyepiece and a medical scalpel, oh and an old toothbrush to clear the shavings! Good luck let us know how you get on!!

divineo.SE
07-02-2006, 06:51 PM
I got it working..

I have made a guide how to open the PSP..
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=23295

unicorn025
07-02-2006, 07:13 PM
six hours later and all traces are scape, i find that if you scape from the templet toward your body you have less chance of cutting the trace, another word don't scape the trace with a back and forth motion.

divineo.SE can you post a pic of the back of the mother board please if you have one. thank you

mbuena
07-03-2006, 07:02 AM
Anyone who had a failed install want to sell their old chip? I wouldnt mind having a go.. provided it's still got the wire.. PM me..

DiGiT
07-03-2006, 07:19 AM
Anyone who had a failed install want to sell their old chip? I wouldnt mind having a go.. provided it's still got the wire.. PM me..

Yes. Sent you a PM ;)

There should be enough enamel wire left for a second install, also have plenty of 30 awg Kynar wire left. Just need to de-solder all the wire's from the FPC cable and it's good to go :)

mistermisfit
07-03-2006, 07:57 AM
I just recieved my chip today. Im gonna have a go a little later on. ;)
Im shaking just thinking of it. I have been practicing soldering to the traces on an old PS2 board, it aint easy :eek:

wish me luck :D

whackawookie
07-03-2006, 08:58 AM
I just recieved my chip today. Im gonna have a go a little later on. ;)
Im shaking just thinking of it. I have been practicing soldering to the traces on an old PS2 board, it aint easy :eek:

wish me luck :D

trust me, the traces on the ps2 boards are cake compared to the ones on the psp. I've never been intimidated by the solder spots on a board until i went into the psp's.

Steve-O 2006
07-03-2006, 01:08 PM
PSP Motherboard is about 10 times smaller than the PS2's.... If you manage to solder to the PS2's traces, times that difficulty by about 5 and your ready to go :p

Good Luck, Personally I would just downgrade to 1.5 and then wait till a chip is realesed that requires less wires to solder (First release of chips always need lots of wires soldered. Then as time goes on the number of wires reduce ;) )

babb_z
07-03-2006, 01:12 PM
All my traces are mask free, ive put it all back together and tested ie not chopped through any and it still works(thankyou god). But i cant for the life of me get the solder to stick to the board. Its doing my head in now and im really close to calling it a day.

mistermisfit
07-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Well, I am just after installing the chip.. took a few hours.

I turned on the PSP with L1 held and it boots up as normal.
other wise its a black screen, which is ok ;)

I managed to dump the original psp firmware (2.6) to a file , worked fine.
I flashed that 2.6 dump back to the psp, no more black screen and the chip boots the original firmware perfectly.
Now to find a dump of v1.5 firmware. :confused:

About the installation. The scraping of the traces is the most difficult thing for sure. Spend a LOT of time at that, and don`t do any scraping until you are sure its the right trace.

I won`t know for sure its working 100% until I can get my hands on v1.5 firmware, but its looking good so far :D

swisstony123
07-03-2006, 03:40 PM
The 1.5 is out there try some other psp "hack"S sites i wish i could post it here but i can't for obvious reasons:rolleyes: Anyways let us know how you get on! Your the first member of the "general public" to do it!.......well on here anyhow!??! (no offence to divineo.se:D)

mistermisfit
07-03-2006, 04:02 PM
Im just flashing with a v1.5 file I found right now.
Fingers crossed! :o

EDIT: All working fine, the 1.5 flash was successful. :D

babb_z
07-03-2006, 04:32 PM
Im halfway through, got the top row of wires on and been at it for 3 hours now. I think the solder im using is crap, it just will not stick no matter what. Anyway ill finish up tomorrow now and hopefully i wont have a brick. Took some pics at every stage too.

_b_
07-04-2006, 03:30 AM
soldering is potentiallly murder ! ("Du sollst nicht Löten!")

abelferrara
07-04-2006, 04:39 AM
It appears that exept divineo, no one succeded to properly install this mod yet. I could figure out three reasons for that: first one, and frankly quite obvious, the install is beyond reach of anyone without microscope implants in their eyes and robotic arm transplant to direct soldering iron. Second possibility is that as a first batch of this product, some of them might be defective. I know its not very complicated piece of hardware and rather easy one to test for quality issues at production level, but still its a possibility. Third one is the most unbilievable: what UP is not what its claims it to be?
My dubts come from lack of any creditable info of the succes install exept divineo (wich I consider highly creditable by the way) but its just one. Why no video UP installed and workin, showing all this L1, Left Dpad booting, programming mode features in one continuos movie with sound and whole PSP showed?

mistermisfit
07-04-2006, 05:57 AM
It appears that exept divineo, no one succeded to properly install this mod yet. I could figure out three reasons for that: first one, and frankly quite obvious, the install is beyond reach of anyone without microscope implants in their eyes and robotic arm transplant to direct soldering iron. Second possibility is that as a first batch of this product, some of them might be defective. I know its not very complicated piece of hardware and rather easy one to test for quality issues at production level, but still its a possibility. Third one is the most unbilievable: what UP is not what its claims it to be?
My dubts come from lack of any creditable info of the succes install exept divineo (wich I consider highly creditable by the way) but its just one. Why no video UP installed and workin, showing all this L1, Left Dpad booting, programming mode features in one continuos movie with sound and whole PSP showed?


I can verify that this chip works 100% ok when installed correctly. It is a complete ***** to do and takes hours but it does work. I could do a video of mine working, maybe later on :)

abelferrara
07-04-2006, 06:38 AM
I can verify that this chip works 100% ok when installed correctly. It is a complete ***** to do and takes hours but it does work. I could do a video of mine working, maybe later on :)

Good to hear, it works for you. Now its just to see your video (2 C is 2 B-live). Could you also give some details on instalation process? Many people would appreciate it.

squall78
07-04-2006, 06:58 AM
so let me get this straight..

the modchip is now CONFIRMED to be able to repair bricked psp's?

obviously by confirmed i mean by you guys, the psp community, not the information released by stores, modchip companies, and so on.

if so then i need to get my hands on one xD

DazGamer
07-04-2006, 07:13 AM
I have got it to work :) It took me about 5 hours to get the chip in place, and 2 hours to find out why it did not work... After the installation it started up only with a black screen and it would not communicate with the flash program. After a lot of searching i found a bad connection between the cable and the usb port. It will only work if i take the fpc cable a few milimeters out from the socket.

1.50 firmware is now loaded :D :D

abelferrara
07-04-2006, 07:14 AM
so let me get this straight..

the modchip is now CONFIRMED to be able to repair bricked psp's?



I havent seen a single video of it in action so its only confirmed "on paper/html text". About unbricking psp I understand it suposedly gives you replacement/extra firmware chip to boot your psp from, but Im not sure if you are able to reflash corrupted firmware chip on psp m-board again (I havent heard of that). If you have bricked psp due to unsuccesfull downgrade/upgrade and you want just to unbrick it much easier way is to get m-board replacement. You can get it for 99$ (so the same as UP), and installation, compared to mod, is a breeze.

flippa
07-04-2006, 08:21 AM
It appears that exept divineo, no one succeded to properly install this mod yet. I could figure out three reasons for that: first one, and frankly quite obvious, the install is beyond reach of anyone without microscope implants in their eyes and robotic arm transplant to direct soldering iron. Second possibility is that as a first batch of this product, some of them might be defective. I know its not very complicated piece of hardware and rather easy one to test for quality issues at production level, but still its a possibility. Third one is the most unbilievable: what UP is not what its claims it to be?
My dubts come from lack of any creditable info of the succes install exept divineo (wich I consider highly creditable by the way) but its just one. Why no video UP installed and workin, showing all this L1, Left Dpad booting, programming mode features in one continuos movie with sound and whole PSP showed?

That's rubbish - Divineo are not the only ones. Ghost2fitter.co.uk fitted mine for me. I am their test bed. They complained it took their most experienced modchip fitter about 1.5 hours and is the hardest they have ever fitted (the called it a "nightmare"). They're still thinking about whether it is worth them offering it as a service or not. I am VERY glad I did not try and fit this myself. So much for "easy" install! :)

vatovey
07-04-2006, 08:40 AM
I have been installing mods right back to the snes days, and the PSP pcb solder points on some parts of the board are almost impossible, but with the right equipment, it will be possible.

I am going to do it on my bricked PSP, so if anyone has UP chip which they are'nt going to use, PM me as I may be interested in purchasing, I am in the UK btw.

This is the wire I have been using for PS2 installs, and suspect it should be good/small enough for the PSP (http://www.netpcdirect.co.uk/kynar_wire.php).

15Watt Soldering iron (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4052&criteria=soldering%20iron&doy=4m7).

Some 0.8mm de-soldering braid might be useful just incase you do make a mistake soldering (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=29016&criteria=solder%20with%20flux&doy=4m7)

And an industrial microscope with lighting.

I personally use some isopropyl alchohol to clean up the tracks/flux off the psp motherboard after all is complete, and inspect for short circuits with the microscope..

PM me if you have a UP you want to get rid of.

Vaughn.

mistermisfit
07-04-2006, 08:41 AM
That's rubbish - Divineo are not the only ones. Ghost2fitter.co.uk fitted mine for me. I am their test bed. They complained it took their most experienced modchip fitter about 1.5 hours and is the hardest they have ever fitted (the called it a "nightmare"). They're still thinking about whether it is worth them offering it as a service or not. I am VERY glad I did not try and fit this myself. So much for "easy" install! :)

Im still not sure if I would do another one, they take so long to do and the chances of ending up with a brick are very high. But saying that, it should be that bit easier next time after doing it once.

babb_z
07-04-2006, 09:37 AM
The first time is always the hardest. Im gonna finish mine off when i get in from work. Should take about another hour all being well. If it works(fingers crossed) i cant wait to do all my mates because it'll be a hell of a lot easier.

BTW, for anybody without much experience in this type of work, i would highly recommend getting a pro to do it for you. Ive been soldering for 20 years and it's the hardest job ive ever had to do. Also, by the time you've ended up buying a new soldering iron, microscope, glue gun etc, etc, it would work out cheaper than experimenting yourself.

zetex
07-04-2006, 10:24 AM
what type of microscope is everyone been using????

Thanks

Z:)

abelferrara
07-04-2006, 12:38 PM
(...) Ghost2fitter.co.uk fitted mine for me. I am their test bed. (...)

Post the video, will ya?

flippa
07-04-2006, 02:47 PM
Post the video, will ya?

who said anything about making a video?

abelferrara
07-04-2006, 03:57 PM
So we can see it workin :)

stuck_fugu
07-04-2006, 04:04 PM
If any of you now no longer have a working psp because of the modchip and don't want the modchip, i'd be willing to help you out there. PM me

flippa
07-04-2006, 05:34 PM
So we can see it workin :)

You'll have to ask MrMisfit (I am pretty sure his is one of the Ghost2Fitter people who did my PSP). He already offered to upload a video in another thread (click on his message posting history). So maybe he'll be able to help out. The reason I also say MrMisfit.. is that Ghost2Fitter are holding onto my psp for training purposes so I don't have it to hand anyway. Since the Epsilon bios isn't out... I don't have a lot of use for it. It was just a spare psp I had lying around. They have done me a favour by chipping my psp it for free. I am more than happy to let them study the install - it's all for a good cause :). Oh yeah - there is one other slight problem.... i don't have a camera... and don't intend to buy one at any time soon ;)

mistermisfit
07-04-2006, 06:31 PM
I would do a video, but I really don`t want my mac address going out on you tube :o . Im not part of the ghostfitters btw, im just all by myself :D

EDIT: - I`ll put a piece of tape over the screen where the mac is, and i`ll post it on you tube in a few minutes.




You'll have to ask MrMisfit (I am pretty sure his is one of the Ghost2Fitter people who did my PSP). He already offered to upload a video in another thread (click on his message posting history). So maybe he'll be able to help out. The reason I also say MrMisfit.. is that Ghost2Fitter are holding onto my psp for training purposes so I don't have it to hand anyway. Since the Epsilon bios isn't out... I don't have a lot of use for it. It was just a spare psp I had lying around. They have done me a favour by chipping my psp it for free. I am more than happy to let them study the install - it's all for a good cause :). Oh yeah - there is one other slight problem.... i don't have a camera... and don't intend to buy one at any time soon ;)

white wizard
07-04-2006, 06:44 PM
put a piece of paper over it? :p or maby your thumb

EDIT: didnt see you edited your post :rolleyes:

mistermisfit
07-04-2006, 07:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TleSixHBVj0

I`ll never make it as a director, but you should get the idea :D

abelferrara
07-05-2006, 02:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TleSixHBVj0

I`ll never make it as a director, but you should get the idea :D

Convinced, indeed it works :) Thanks for the effort!

HAZZER123
07-05-2006, 06:20 AM
Couldnt that exact same effect on the video be done using devhook? I mean the starting with a 2.6 then turning off and back on to a 1.5 FW PSP. Not saying it is fake but it could be done otherways.

whackawookie
07-05-2006, 07:30 AM
Couldnt that exact same effect on the video be done using devhook? I mean the starting with a 2.6 then turning off and back on to a 1.5 FW PSP. Not saying it is fake but it could be done otherways.
not with devhook no because devhook doesnt go over 2.5. I dont see it being done in any case because it was a cold boot for both fw so there was no executions to change it for the next go.

swisstony123
07-05-2006, 09:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TleSixHBVj0

I`ll never make it as a director, but you should get the idea :D

Excellent work dude!! Really pleased to see some footage of it actually up and running!!:D

DrRobot
07-05-2006, 01:35 PM
The first time is always the hardest. Im gonna finish mine off when i get in from work. Should take about another hour all being well. If it works(fingers crossed) i cant wait to do all my mates because it'll be a hell of a lot easier.

BTW, for anybody without much experience in this type of work, i would highly recommend getting a pro to do it for you. Ive been soldering for 20 years and it's the hardest job ive ever had to do. Also, by the time you've ended up buying a new soldering iron, microscope, glue gun etc, etc, it would work out cheaper than experimenting yourself.
did you finish?
how did it turn out? does it work?

sorry if im alittle annoying...

Shadow.Box
07-05-2006, 03:43 PM
Thanks for the video mistermisfit! I fell better about installing it now. Mine came in today and I'm going to install it when i get home from work.

squall78
07-05-2006, 04:50 PM
Thanks for the video mistermisfit! I fell better about installing it now. Mine came in today and I'm going to install it when i get home from work.

dont forget to let us know how it turns out! =D

mistermisfit
07-05-2006, 05:18 PM
The scraping/cutting of the vias was the most difficult part of the install I found. They are really really delicate, I can`t stress that enough. I did use the stencil tools that came with the chip, and a tiny precision screwdriver for scraping.
Also without decent magnification im thinking its impossible. Good luck with the installs lads! ;)

zetex
07-05-2006, 05:51 PM
hi mate,

what did you use to magnify the board??

Thanks alot

Z:)

mistermisfit
07-05-2006, 06:28 PM
I use a ring light with a magnifier in the middle. Its not the best, but certainly makes installation easier.
something similar to this

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47980&criteria=magnifier&doy=5m7

http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/47980i0.jpg

babb_z
07-06-2006, 02:51 AM
did you finish?
how did it turn out? does it work?

sorry if im alittle annoying...

Nope, failed miserably. All went well untill the last part, i thing i may have cut through more than 1 track. Anyway its a 1.5 brick! Went and bought another yesterday - 2.6 and downgraded it successfully and bought a roll of copper enamel wire. Going to have another go at it at the weekend, and just return the knackered one to the store so i dont lose out. Anyone who wants to buy a brand new 1.5 - PM me.

cow
07-06-2006, 05:43 AM
Nope, failed miserably. All went well untill the last part, i thing i may have cut through more than 1 track. Anyway its a 1.5 brick! Went and bought another yesterday - 2.6 and downgraded it successfully and bought a roll of copper enamel wire. Going to have another go at it at the weekend, and just return the knackered one to the store so i dont lose out. Anyone who wants to buy a brand new 1.5 - PM me.

So are you selling the broken 1.5?

babb_z
07-06-2006, 06:32 AM
No, ive returned the broken one to the shop and i now have 2 brand new 1.5's. Ive downgraded them from 2.6.

swisstony123
07-06-2006, 07:56 AM
Nope, failed miserably. All went well untill the last part, i thing i may have cut through more than 1 track. Anyway its a 1.5 brick! Went and bought another yesterday - 2.6 and downgraded it successfully and bought a roll of copper enamel wire. Going to have another go at it at the weekend, and just return the knackered one to the store so i dont lose out. Anyone who wants to buy a brand new 1.5 - PM me.

Exact same thing happened to me!! But i'm trying to bridge the gap then i'll sell it if all goes well (for fairly cheap making this person aware that it cant be chipped and i had to repair it)!??! And buy a psp that i can send off to be modded!!

babb_z
07-06-2006, 09:22 AM
Thats exactly what i tried doing. When i tried it though, i think i heated the enamel up that much trying to get it to stick to the tracks it just disintegrated. Meaning the wire bridges were touching each other and shorting out.

Does anyone have any successfull tips on making the cut? Im not beaten on this thing quite yet. Ive got 2 more to go through.....

mistermisfit
07-06-2006, 02:09 PM
Thats exactly what i tried doing. When i tried it though, i think i heated the enamel up that much trying to get it to stick to the tracks it just disintegrated. Meaning the wire bridges were touching each other and shorting out.

Does anyone have any successfull tips on making the cut? Im not beaten on this thing quite yet. Ive got 2 more to go through.....
I found the easiest way to cut the track is to scratch it first, then cut it with a precision cutter/scalpel. I didnt use the stencil for cutting though.

squall78
07-06-2006, 04:18 PM
when you returned your psp to the store what did they do? did they look around for scratches or damages? or did you just say it wont turn on or something? and did they check the warranty?

cuz i have a 1.5 bricked but its got some scratches on it and no warranty sticker. but if they dont check id give it a shot at that. im sure its different everywhere but id like to hear how yours went xD

spaga
07-06-2006, 04:56 PM
Just try it. What's the worst that could happen.

babb_z
07-06-2006, 05:04 PM
when you returned your psp to the store what did they do? did they look around for scratches or damages? or did you just say it wont turn on or something? and did they check the warranty?

cuz i have a 1.5 bricked but its got some scratches on it and no warranty sticker. but if they dont check id give it a shot at that. im sure its different everywhere but id like to hear how yours went xD
At first they said they had to check the warranty to see if it had to be sent off for repair, then i kicked up a stink saying it was a gift for my younger brother's birthday, so they just exchanged it on the spot. My PSP was covered in scratches so i just handled it a lot so it was covered in fingerprints- that pretty much covered them all up. I didnt have a warranty sticker on either, Just make sure you clean behind the battery any left over stickers so it looks all black(just in case they check).

By the way i dont endorse this kind of behaviour to anyone....its only for crafty b@st@rds like me!!!

someoldguy
07-06-2006, 06:40 PM
Anyone who has gotten it working: Have you tried updating (or even downgrading) the onboard firmware?

For instance, installing the UP, booting to your psp's original firmware, and running an update. Just worried it will conflict and try to flash the UP or something, though I assume they have it worked out to not be an issue. Secondly: What happens when you try to run the update after booting from the UP?

Aresius
07-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Installed 2 chip successfully ( one on mine and one on my friend's psp) both work flawlessly ;)

I also tried downgrading mine to 1.00 and it works :D
Now I've got a 2.71/1.00 :D :D :D

squall78
07-07-2006, 05:14 AM
for those with a bricked PSPs, will installing the chip allow you to fix whatever bricked it in the first place (for me, i had a problem while switching my opening videop T_T)

i will be able to run the firmware in teh chip, but what about the one that was originally in the psp?