Hackers decrypt retail PS3 HDD

[Zeus]

According to <a href="http://www.haxnetwork.net/2009/02/ps3-hdd-decrypted/" target="_blank">Haxnetwork</a>, hackers have managed to decrypt the hard drive of a retail PS3. Things have been relatively quiet when it comes to hacking the PS3, at least publicly anyway.

[Daniablo]

I can't seem to connect to the site, hopefully this will lead to something good.

[iLLNESS]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****

I'm also a big pessemist and I hate everyone and everything.

[kimd41]

Original source is DemonHades duh.

[burnblaze]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****

You know what your comment is worth? I'll give you a guess.

You sig shows your intelligence and maturity about ALL consoles and games.

[Salmon-Face]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****

I'm waiting for an excuse to ban you. That may be out of line but a lot of us are on the end of our tether.

[onandon]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****


Are you bill gates? ;)

[KillFelix]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****

Jack Black? Do you mean the video of him in a 3some with a PS3 and a 360?

[ThreeDog]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****
Hax is being overloaded with traffic again try here (http://www.qj.net/Retail-PS3-HDD-decrypted/pg/49/aid/129143)
In fact it has already led to something :D The below is RE Resistance: Fall of Man Retail:

As you can see, the route not only of redirection(like i said many times)
but also the certificates of authentication and validation along with the PS3 Game Key
Lets hope the method is released very very soon ;)

[Anil8tr]

The only ability/hack I want on my PS3 is to be able to rip my PS2 games and run them from the HDD. That is it! I only see a handful of games I'd want on PS3 as it is now. And that includes any future titles.

[JordanBlack68]

I'm waiting for an excuse to ban you. That may be out of line but a lot of us are on the end of our tether.

I'll paypal you a fiver to ban him ;)

:p

[crypysmoker]

lol Everyone wants Illness banned. All he does is show that hes either a child, or a very immature adult who has no life so he has to try and cause a rise out of AN ONLINE FORUM. He cant even find real people to bother.

He wants attention, nothing more and people give it to him.
Anyway.. if he did have half a sense he could go and find out that this is something sony will start to worry about.
This could lead to ga,e rops from the PS3 harddrive and ability to upload them on your Ps3 harddrive from your PC.
Meaning.. You could in theory Take your PS3 harddrive out, plug into your PC, run a prgram that decrypts it to be able to be read/written to on the PC. A crude way of FTP I guess lol

[ku16610]

seconded :)






You know what your comment is worth? I'll give you a guess.

You sig shows your intelligence and maturity about ALL consoles and games.

[ThreeDog]

lol Everyone wants Illness banned. All he does is show that hes either a child, or a very immature adult who has no life so he has to try and cause a rise out of AN ONLINE FORUM. He cant even find real people to bother.

He wants attention, nothing more and people give it to him.
Anyway.. if he did have half a sense he could go and find out that this is something sony will start to worry about.
This could lead to ga,e rops from the PS3 harddrive and ability to upload them on your Ps3 harddrive from your PC.
Meaning.. You could in theory Take your PS3 harddrive out, plug into your PC, run a prgram that decrypts it to be able to be read/written to on the PC. A crude way of FTP I guess lol

Come on it can't be that bad, he could be from Morocco and be banned every day :p:p:p

Why would you need to take out the hard drive? just make a linux driver, download the theoretical decrypted scener dumps and ftp them over.

[splattered]

Wait... nope.

This didn't happen.

Nuh uh.

If going by all the fanboy comments on here over the years this is literally "impossible"

Right?

:rolleyes:

[iLLNESS]

sorry guys i upset you so much about that comment.

maybe i should have held back and said something like 'zomg this doesnt mean anything cuz ps3 sucks' or something.

i said the drive being decrypted wont do jack **** cuz it wont. this isnt a huge leap or nothing in a hack. just a small step

[ajpowerranger]

So will this really lead to anything? or like every other time something gets done on the ps3 it leads to nothing?

Persoanlly I'm not to fussed about playing backups (would be nice but I only like certain types of games so can afford to buy the ones that I like to play) but would love homebrew, playing emulators and allowing any type of video playback is what I want!

I know I could just install linux but it seems like too much hassle to me, so is there a good chnace this will lead to anything?

[faceless]

Wait... nope.

This didn't happen.

Nuh uh.

If going by all the fanboy comments on here over the years this is literally "impossible"

Right?

:rolleyes:
since you're trolling, i'll help out ... don't forget to say that the PS3 sales will jump now, since the only reason people buy the 360 and Wii are piracy!

[ThreeDog]

So will this really lead to anything? or like every other time something gets done on the ps3 it leads to nothing?

Decryption led to a file based backup loader on the debug firmware (remember 2gb limit still applies so no single file iso) as long as the executable is signed (which the resistance:fom game file is) and redirected there's no reason why this shouldn't be useful.
I am not saying the job is 100% done! we need both the decryption method and more importantly a method to boot a modified version of the loader (if he's even willing to release) but its a hell of a lot more promising than that jerk releasing fake software and promises of secret hdd swap methods.

[chucky_uk]

I'm waiting for an excuse to ban you. That may be out of line but a lot of us are on the end of our tether.

Wow you have become a mod, maxconsole sure is going down the drain.

Back on topic dont see what the fuss is with this hack, wont lead to anything special.

Is this group or person to be trusted?

[lilskaterpunk]

Great news, hopefully this will lead somewhere...

[Disane]

well ,now that we (alright not we ,but StreetSkaterFu) knows how to dumb the Memory and Demonhades (again not we ,why aren`t these methods released yet?) knows how to decrypt the HDD we (once the method is revealed to us) might be able to get the big picture on how the PS3 works. After that we only need to learn how reencrypt the files we modify and we are good to go ;)

[ajpowerranger]

Seen a few mention of resistance fall of man in here, I can't seem to get to the post on the haxnetwork site it obviosuly getting a lot of traffic...hope this story ain't fake because haxnetwork is the new name for what was ps3hax.net so I hope this aint just a way to get traffic!

Anyway back to my question what does resistance fall of man have to do with this?

[Disane]

Seen a few mention of resistance fall of man in here, I can't seem to get to the post on the haxnetwork site it obviosuly getting a lot of traffic...hope this story ain't fake because haxnetwork is the new name for what was ps3hax.net so I hope this aint just a way to get traffic!

Anyway back to my question what does resistance fall of man have to do with this?

as far as i know (seeing from a picture thats posted on haxnetworks) some guys at demonhades.0rg have got some dumbs from the Resistance: Fall of a Man Game Key.

I dont know if its the key which signes the game. :rolleyes:

[Snaileater]

you know what it will lead to? jack ****

I'm also a big pessemist and I hate everyone and everything.

sig phail
___

[ThreeDog]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4639/decypher.png Heres the resistance image. Like they say demonhades has the ps3 game key said key should be responsible for launching the game, they also have the certificates which are responsible for authentication and validation

*edit* i would like to see another game for verification still to be fully convinced. p.s disane nice trolling on hax, visit demonhades.org to ask questions instead perhaps?

[GazP]

This is another step forward for sure. Bet Sony are watching the forums like hawks...

[dsav]

ehh i hope something comes of this, but then again i think dax or whoever needs to start workin on a ps3 cfw if at all possible.

heres to wishful thinking i guess.

[Cantenna]

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[Raimond]

well haven't heard any new PS3 hacking news in months... maybe we'll see something... finally!?

It's liek the first console in so long to be hack-proof!

[gerbilboy]

sorry guys i upset you so much about that comment.

maybe i should have held back and said something like 'zomg this doesnt mean anything cuz ps3 sucks' or something.

i said the drive being decrypted wont do jack **** cuz it wont. this isnt a huge leap or nothing in a hack. just a small step

You upset us with EVERY POST OF YOURS, not only this one.

[cloudboy]

1.this is a fake
2.its true, this wont lead to jack ****

[Discounts]

I'm waiting for an excuse to ban you. That may be out of line but a lot of us are on the end of our tether.

oh shoot. what's up Salmon-Face:cool: nice to find out you made it to mod status.


You upset us with EVERY POST OF YOURS, not only this one.

how about you become a mod as well.:cool:

[Xenogears V]

Too soon to say....but for me is the usually bullsh*t.

[rupter13612]

illness is right. It won't lead to jack ****. The PS3 is not hackable people. If nothing has been found after two years it's pretty obvious it's not going to happen. Get over it. And stop talking about banning people every time you here something you don't like. That makes you sound like a communist. Free speech baby!!!

[grapeape]

illness is right. It won't lead to jack ****. The PS3 is not hackable people. If nothing has been found after two years it's pretty obvious it's not going to happen. Get over it. And stop talking about banning people every time you here something you don't like. That makes you sound like a communist. Free speech baby!!!

I dont mod my consoles so I couldnt care less, but the n64 was unhackable, so was the gamecube, etc...eventually an exploit will be found its inevitable.

[ajpowerranger]

I dont mod my consoles so I couldnt care less, but the n64 was unhackable, so was the gamecube, etc...eventually an exploit will be found its inevitable.

Thats not strictly true the n64 had that doctor 64 thing which let you play backed up games on the n64 using a cd-rom attachment like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_V64)

and the game cube was hacked and could play backups and homebrew you could even get a new case that was big enough so you could use normal sized dvds on it. I hacked my gamecube with this max drive thing that let you use sd cards and play emulators off it.

Everything is hackable it just takes time, I just don't think many people are trying to hack the ps3.

[ajpowerranger]

tut ignore my last post! its been exposed as fake:


Our hopes have been dashed to the rocks once again. News a few days ago about a retail PS3 unit's HDD getting decrypted sure made quite a stir, but apparently, we've been hoodwinked. According to some investigations made by other hackers (special thanks to knightsolidus, idone, and NDT) on PS3News, the facts are these:

The files are real, but they were dumped from a TEST PS3 (old news), from its /dev_flash (Thanks NDT!) folder which is 100% accessable with a TEST.


Furthermore, the explanation of the "encryption" was all wrong (see my earlier post). On top of that, the real research done was 'borrowed' (to put it nicely) by DemonHades from the source... namely knightsolidus, who has been doing research with the PS3 HDD.


He made some interesting findings (hitting a similiar roadblock that we did, but we are now working together to try to get past it), however, currently no part of the hard disk drive has been decrypted.

Though the hackers who did the investigation are having no ill will towards DemonHades, they're putting this drama aside and that "it would be appreciated if he came clean with his users so we all can move forward working together."

Thanks to emaster101 for giving us a heads up on this!

Source (http://www.qj.net/Retail-PS3-HDD-decryption-exposed-as-a-FAKE/pg/49/aid/129175)

Guess my pc is still going to be my source of snes roms

[JoMacHo]

illness is right. It won't lead to jack ****. The PS3 is not hackable people. If nothing has been found after two years it's pretty obvious it's not going to happen. Get over it. And stop talking about banning people every time you here something you don't like. That makes you sound like a communist. Free speech baby!!!

I got over it, got an XBOX! My PS3 is just collecting dust now. Though PS3 seems superior, the game database is not even near, not to mention every game has achievements.

[Jason Voorhees]

didnt people know was total Bullsh!t...

[sd5150]

tut ignore my last post! its been exposed as fake:



Source (http://www.qj.net/Retail-PS3-HDD-decryption-exposed-as-a-FAKE/pg/49/aid/129175)

Guess my pc is still going to be my source of snes roms

"PS3News" LOL. Yeah since they say its fake its fake, right? ;) It will only be "real" to them once they can steal the source code and inject their own image into it and drive up ad revenue....

Also, whats up with peoples "p" keys, why is everyone saying dumb instead of dump? Or am I just "dumb"??!!

[ajpowerranger]

"P
Also, whats up with peoples "p" keys, why is everyone saying dumb instead of dump? Or am I just "dumb"??!!

LOL i'm glad somebody asked! I didn't want to ask!!

[grapeape]

Thats not strictly true the n64 had that doctor 64 thing which let you play backed up games on the n64 using a cd-rom attachment like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_V64)

and the game cube was hacked and could play backups and homebrew you could even get a new case that was big enough so you could use normal sized dvds on it. I hacked my gamecube with this max drive thing that let you use sd cards and play emulators off it.

Everything is hackable it just takes time, I just don't think many people are trying to hack the ps3.

That was my point...both were touted and uncrackable but my v64 worked just fine, and the Phantasy Star exploit allowed me to stream GC games from my PC long before the mod chips and max drives came out.

[Phaethon]

Our hopes have been dashed to the rocks once again. News a few days ago about a retail PS3 unit's HDD getting decrypted sure made quite a stir, but apparently, we've been hoodwinked. According to some investigations made by other hackers (special thanks to knightsolidus, idone, and NDT) on PS3News, the facts are these:

The files are real, but they were dumped from a TEST PS3 (old news), from its /dev_flash (Thanks NDT!) folder which is 100% accessable with a TEST.


Furthermore, the explanation of the "encryption" was all wrong (see my earlier post). On top of that, the real research done was 'borrowed' (to put it nicely) by DemonHades from the source... namely knightsolidus, who has been doing research with the PS3 HDD.


He made some interesting findings (hitting a similiar roadblock that we did, but we are now working together to try to get past it), however, currently no part of the hard disk drive has been decrypted.

Though the hackers who did the investigation are having no ill will towards DemonHades, they're putting this drama aside and that "it would be appreciated if he came clean with his users so we all can move forward working together."

Source: http://ps3.qj.net/Retail-PS3-HDD-decryption-exposed-as-a-FAKE/pg/49/aid/129175

[ajpowerranger]

Wooo apperntly its not fake www.haxnetwork.net check it out!! it comes with a brief tutorial so you can try it yourself but a detailed one is up later:

1.) Make a dump of your PS3 HDD (connect to your PC via SATA)
2.) Plug HDD back to your PS3
3. Copy a large-dummy file to the HDD
4.) Unplug HDD from PS3, and plug it back into your PC
5.) Dump the HDD image again
6.) Compare the two dumps you know have, and locate the encrypted dummy data (use HxD or any hex editor to do this)
7.) Replace the encrypted dummy data with sections of the data you want to decrypt
8.) Place the HDD back into your PS3
9.) Copy dummy data from PS3 to external media (USB drive/flash drive)
10.) Inspect the dummy file on PC from USB stick/flash drive.

Hopefully this will lead to something soon snes emulator hopefully lol

[sherlocke]

why is hacking PS3 so hard? does anyone can explain

[bobit]

apparently theres a new hack out
lean over the ps3 while eating a biscuit
the crumbs fall and some work there way in side
thus putting pressure on diode 1 and cap 2
you might need to eat a few packets to get it right
but there is a catch the biscuit crumbs for diode 1 must come from a
custard cream
the crumbs for cap 2 must come from a digestive biscuit
now before you ask chocolate biscuit dont work

you know when you done it
as a loud voice screams out and says
whos ate all the fu@king biscuits

whats a biscuit i hear you ask
translation for all you yanks biscuit = cookie

[MicroNut]

why is hacking PS3 so hard? does anyone can explain

I am no expert.
Here are a few reasons:

Dedicated Hypervisor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor) - Built into one of the CELL's SPE's.
This prevents all types of attacks including the traditional buffer overflow.
It controls, limits, the OtherOS access to the machines hardware.
While it has been pushed around a little, it cannot be bargained or reasoned with...

Multiple layers of encryption on files and system calls.
In the case of this discovery, the hard drive layer of encryption has been removed, but file level encryption remains.
That's not all, games are also protected by a Blu-Ray digital stamp on the Blu-Ray disc itself.
It cannot be reproduced by any consumer hardware.
Games contain a privately signed executable.
It will be very, very difficult to factor a key, near impossible.
But with enough decrypted data it maybe possible to sign their own someday.
That would be huge but again... very slim chance.

Like the PSP and 360 the CPU has its own CPU id keys which it uses to encrypt all of its data making it unique to that device.
This effects everything from files to the unique keys needed for the device to make calls to the hardware.
This means that once something is installed to the device those files and system calls are uniquely encrypted to that device.

If the CPU id is found, just like the 360, Sony can blow an e-fuse on the next firmware update and change the key.

But this isn't about free games, its about homebrew right? lol

To me the fact that it hasn't been broken yet is a testament to Sony engineering.
Very often when you have a team of engineers vs. the world, the world wins very quickly.
In this case, this team of Sony engineers work is standing up well against the whole world trying to hack it.

[mattoligy]

apparently theres a new hack out
lean over the ps3 while eating a biscuit
the crumbs fall and some work there way in side
thus putting pressure on diode 1 and cap 2
you might need to eat a few packets to get it right
but there is a catch the biscuit crumbs for diode 1 must come from a
custard cream
the crumbs for cap 2 must come from a digestive biscuit
now before you ask chocolate biscuit dont work

you know when you done it
as a loud voice screams out and says
whos ate all the fu@king biscuits

whats a biscuit i hear you ask
translation for all you yanks biscuit = cookie

You funny c*n* hahaha made my day am pissin myself lol

[wot_Al'Thor]

nevermind

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