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Zeus
10-29-2008, 04:31 PM
Cnet's Don Reisinger has written an article that looks at how Sony is killing the Playstation 3. He believes that Sony's PS3 has nothing "that it can differentiate on any significant level" while the Xbox 360 has Xbox Live and the Wii has its "innovative style of gameplay." "The Playstation name isn't what it used to be. And if Sony continues to make the wrong moves and hitch its future to a price strategy that makes no sense, the Playstation 3 will sink into the realm of irrelevance and the entire Playstation name could die." he concluded.

News Source: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10078340-17.html" target=_blank">news.cnet.com</a>

SONIC
10-29-2008, 04:56 PM
Well, at launch I would agree with this guy, but now... dunno. I mean, the main problem for me backthen was, that there was no software to support it. It's getting better and better though, and Sony seems to concentrate more on the games now then they might did before.

And I have to be honest with you, I love the blu-ray's also.

Cue
10-29-2008, 05:14 PM
Well, at launch I would agree with this guy, but now... dunno. I mean, the main problem for me backthen was, that there was no software to support it. It's getting better and better though, and Sony seems to concentrate more on the games now then they might did before.

And I have to be honest with you, I love the blu-ray's also.

Me too.

into the realm of irrelevance and the entire Playstation name could die.
ooooooo... is this guy a story teller. Playstation portable is doing fine and sony are making money on the PS3 now so I doubt it will die.

Sony's PS3 has nothing "that it can differentiate on any significant level":
Well I consider free online games and a free online community the best thing but meh, his opinion I guess.

gustavo00
10-29-2008, 05:30 PM
that is what i find weird...

this guy, who writes like he know something, says this about the PS3.
Now lets look at the facts about the PS3 (i'm going to compare it with xbox because they are direct competitors, ok?) :

1) Sold more software than xbox 360 for both Ubisoft and EA.
2) Sold 200.000 more units than xbox 360 in last quarter.
3) In its first 2 years, has 16 million units sold, something like 2.5 million more than xbox 360 when it made 2 years into the market( 1 year without a "same generation" competitor).
4) Does all that with the claimed "worst" games library and at a higher price.

What else do people need to get convinced that, at least, playstation 3 isn't dying or anything?

Nort88
10-29-2008, 05:55 PM
Doesn't blu-ray distinguish the PS3 from it's competitors?

With the software getting better and better for the PS3, there is no way it is going away soon.

Anil8tr
10-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Doesn't blu-ray distinguish the PS3 from it's competitors?
With the software getting better and better for the PS3, there is no way it is going away soon.

Is this someone we know?:rolleyes:

Calidrifter
10-29-2008, 06:32 PM
Doesn't blu-ray distinguish the PS3 from it's competitors?

With the software getting better and better for the PS3, there is no way it is going away soon.

exactly. Whats not really distinguishing is the 360. Sure it has great online, but, sony has comparable online that will only get better and for free.

DemonSurfer
10-29-2008, 06:41 PM
PS3 is crap... games are buggy and poor quality compared to 360.
Don't try to fool yourself into thinking it's good because it costs more!
Your wrong... face it you made a big mistake buying a PS3...
360 has better graphics ( not that graphics affect gameplay ) and Wii has better gameplay...
People don't want some gay Blu-Ray player that plays 2nd rate games as an after thought....
You can buy a proper Blu-Ray player for £99 or Freesat or even Sky HD.
It's so bad that Sony have to bribe people to get good reviews.

Cue
10-29-2008, 06:47 PM
PS3 is crap... games are buggy and poor quality compared to 360.
Don't try to fool yourself into thinking it's good because it costs more!
Your wrong... face it you made a big mistake buying a PS3...
360 has better graphics ( not that graphics affect gameplay ) and Wii has better gameplay...
People don't want some gay Blu-Ray player that plays 2nd rate games as an after thought....
You can buy a proper Blu-Ray player for £99 or Freesat or even Sky HD.
It's so bad that Sony have to bribe people to get good reviews.

Disc formats have a sexuality? What about a hetro one people want a hetro one.

msanchez
10-29-2008, 06:47 PM
Well sony are getting their act together, and really if you think about the ps3 in it's own right it's not doing bad at all. It's only when you think "this is the successor to the ps2?" that things look somewhat grim. Not that the ps3's hardware is bad in my opinion, far from it, I just think sony have their plans out of whack.

They do need to cut the price this holiday season, and control their mouths.. I have no doubt that would greatly help them, I'm talking about shutting up the price cut will kinda help too :P Anyways, Games are coming, slower than what I would hope for, but they are coming, and there's a handful of really good titles out, so it's definitely not the barren wasteland devoid of games that it was before.

Besides even if he did make some good points, this guy is so obviously bias that I couldn't take him serious. I know to the majority the 360 is better than the ps3 (I don't personally see it that way, but that's what it seems like to me) despite that there's some things that most sane people will admit that the ps3 does better than the 360, but with this guy it's always "360 GOOD, PS3 BAD!".

DemonSurfer
10-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Disc formats have a sexuality? What about a hetro one people want a hetro one.

Sorry Sony only released the PS3 is gay format this time around :D
Real men ( yes hetro's ) buy 360's and Wii's
Thats also why they made the PSP smaller to fit in your back pocket close to your ass ;)

Cue
10-29-2008, 07:00 PM
Sorry Sony only released the PS3 is gay format this time around :D
Real men ( yes hetro's ) buy 360's and Wii's
Thats also why they made the PSP smaller to fit in your back pocket close to your ass ;)

So what do women and kids play?

DanASBO
10-29-2008, 07:16 PM
So what do women and kids play?

Wii's and DSeses... :rolleyes:

Sladey1601
10-29-2008, 07:19 PM
So what do women and kids play?

A DS, lol.


Be fair though, the PS3 isnt a patch on the 360 for a gamer side of view. The only thing the PS3 has got going for it is the Blu-ray (great for films, complete shite for games). People buy consoles for games, not for films. Granted it''s nice to have that chioce, but Sony sem to think thats the main priority for the PS3, and so does Microsoft know it too. Because of Sony's ass backwards marketing, the 360 has become this generations PS2.

DanASBO
10-29-2008, 07:23 PM
A DS, lol.


Be fair though, the PS3 isnt a patch on the 360 for a gamer side of view. The only thing the PS3 has got going for it is the Blu-ray (great for films, complete shite for games). People buy consoles for games, not for films. Granted it''s nice to have that chioce, but Sony sem to think thats the main priority for the PS3, and so does Microsoft know it too. Because of Sony's ass backwards marketing, the 360 has become this generations PS2.

You're barking up the wrong tree here... be prepared for a list of amazing PS3 exclusives, including Riiiiiidge Racer, Eye of Judgement and The Almighty Genji. :)

Cue
10-29-2008, 07:27 PM
A DS, lol.


Be fair though, the PS3 isnt a patch on the 360 for a gamer side of view. The only thing the PS3 has got going for it is the Blu-ray (great for films, complete shite for games). People buy consoles for games, not for films. Granted it''s nice to have that chioce, but Sony sem to think thats the main priority for the PS3, and so does Microsoft know it too. Because of Sony's ass backwards marketing, the 360 has become this generations PS2.

I personally am quite enjoying my PS3 and I'm glad I bought one now that LBP is coming out but I have a PC so have not felt the need for a 360. I'm sure its a very good console (software wise) and had I not built a new PC would have bought one.

Cue
10-29-2008, 07:28 PM
You're barking up the wrong tree here... be prepared for a list of amazing PS3 exclusives, including Riiiiiidge Racer, Eye of Judgement and The Almighty Genji. :)

:D you did get the point of that post though right? But be fair at least include Resistance2, LBP, MGS in that list.:p

DanASBO
10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
:D you did get the point of that post though right? But be fair at least include Resistance2, LBP, MGS in that list.:p

Personally I wouldn't include R2, GoW2 will probably be the last "shooter" I buy, sick of the genre, 1st or 3rd person. I get you on the pointless list posts, after all, who is to say red is better than yellow?

canadajames
10-29-2008, 07:51 PM
Sorry Sony only released the PS3 is gay format this time around :D
Real men ( yes hetro's ) buy 360's and Wii's
Thats also why they made the PSP smaller to fit in your back pocket close to your ass ;)

I hope you didnt say wiis since the wii has exciting games like wii fit and wii music perfect for the man in your life maybe.

chip78
10-29-2008, 08:00 PM
that is what i find weird...

this guy, who writes like he know something, says this about the PS3.
Now lets look at the facts about the PS3 (i'm going to compare it with xbox because they are direct competitors, ok?) :

1) Sold more software than xbox 360 for both Ubisoft and EA.
2) Sold 200.000 more units than xbox 360 in last quarter.
3) In its first 2 years, has 16 million units sold, something like 2.5 million more than xbox 360 when it made 2 years into the market( 1 year without a "same generation" competitor).
4) Does all that with the claimed "worst" games library and at a higher price.

What else do people need to get convinced that, at least, playstation 3 isn't dying or anything?

2) despite xbox360 price cut
3) 3,85m! No only 2,5m
5) PS3 has exclusives playable only on PS3. xbox360 has not exclusives,

xbox360 is dying, for this reason MS reduces every 3 months xbox360 price.

In 2009 when PS3 price will be $299, xbox360 will be definitely dead.

rupter13612
10-29-2008, 08:04 PM
PS3 is crap... games are buggy and poor quality compared to 360.
Don't try to fool yourself into thinking it's good because it costs more!
Your wrong... face it you made a big mistake buying a PS3...
360 has better graphics ( not that graphics affect gameplay ) and Wii has better gameplay...
People don't want some gay Blu-Ray player that plays 2nd rate games as an after thought....
You can buy a proper Blu-Ray player for £99 or Freesat or even Sky HD.
It's so bad that Sony have to bribe people to get good reviews.

Get out of here. No retards allowed in these threads anymore. I wouldn't place value on opinions made buy some gay geek who thinks the Wii is a serious game system.

Cue
10-29-2008, 08:12 PM
Get out of here. No retards allowed in these threads anymore. I wouldn't place value on opinions made buy some gay geek who thinks the Wii is a serious game system.

yeah p*ss off we only trust hetro geeks opinions around here who buy hetro media formats.

Ignore the troll he posted the exact same thing in another thread.

Edit: My mistake that was the post above yours I thought you had quoted.

DanASBO
10-29-2008, 08:26 PM
This topic got derailed fast...

I agree with the headline, "Playstation name not what it used to be, needs price cut". Wii's obviously King of Consoles now, what Playstaion used to be, and for a toy, yes games are toys :eek:, it's still a bit pricey.

Yet, I don't agree with the article. Seems like something TC would have posted. ;)

Siliticx
10-29-2008, 09:37 PM
Wii's and DSeses... :rolleyes:

And LittleBigPlanet

trust me, this game is a serious "girlfriends-intro" game.

Cue
10-29-2008, 09:45 PM
And LittleBigPlanet

trust me, this game is a serious "girlfriends-intro" game.

nothing to say except I concur. you always know when getting her to buy it for you doesn't take much doing. :p
But again derailment I apologies.

Ahmed_p800
10-29-2008, 11:00 PM
This topic got derailed fast...

I agree with the headline, "Playstation name not what it used to be, needs price cut". Wii's obviously King of Consoles now, what Playstaion used to be, and for a toy, yes games are toys :eek:, it's still a bit pricey.

Yet, I don't agree with the article. Seems like something TC would have posted. ;)

Why do everyone think the Wii is the best??

did you even tried it??

do you really beleive its the best console out there?

Its a kids peace of s#@$ console

i bought it and the next week i sold it....what a waste of money and time

except mario galaxy!!!

Maybe i dont like it because im not kid anymore....

msanchez
10-29-2008, 11:32 PM
This topic got derailed fast...

I agree with the headline, "Playstation name not what it used to be, needs price cut". Wii's obviously King of Consoles now, what Playstaion used to be, and for a toy, yes games are toys :eek:, it's still a bit pricey. ...

Well I agree that it's not what it used to be, but I definitely don't agree that the wii is the king of consoles, maybe it is in sales, but that doesn't really matter to me.


....
Yet, I don't agree with the article. Seems like something TC would have posted. ;)

It really does seem like this guy has a picture of ken kuturagi had sex with his wife... Either that, or sony's yakuzas sodomized him at some point in his life.


2)...MS reduces every 3 months xbox360 price....

Now that you mention that all hell was breaking lose when sony was cut the price of the ps3 a few times, but I don't seem to recall anyone making much fuss about it when ms cut the price. I could just be forgetting if it was brought up though.

DanASBO
10-30-2008, 12:27 AM
I'm not even responding to that up there^


Well I agree that it's not what it used to be, but I definitely don't agree that the wii is the king of consoles, maybe it is in sales, but that doesn't really matter to me.

By "King of Consoles" I do mean in sales/market share terms. Personally I prefer the 360's current lineup(Which is now quite substantial, varied and critically acclaimed. Playing Fable II right now and it's "Epic"), PS3's second (Handful of TOP quality exclusives, MGS4, LBP, GoW, GT) and the Wii's a farrr third(Metroid, Mario, Zelda and mini-games!), but obviously Joe Public disagrees.


It really does seem like this guy has a picture of ken kuturagi had sex with his wife... Either that, or sony's yakuzas sodomized him at some point in his life.

Indeed.

Turbojugend
10-30-2008, 12:38 AM
exactly. Whats not really distinguishing is the 360. Sure it has great online, but, sony has comparable online that will only get better and for free.


HAHA Comparable online eh? Going to get better? Same shitty PSN I have been using since launch hasn't changed. the PSN sucks, and is nothing like Live. When I need to wait 15-20 minues on Live to play a game, then I'll retract my statement (happened with Socom for me an multiple others). I would happily pay for both Live and PSN for a year, as of right now all games that come out that are multiplayer I'll buy for the 360, because of Live. Sure live has gone down at times, but I am not complaining getting a free month for a few hours downtime. Every new online game that comes out for the Ps3 seems to crash (LBP for example.)

msanchez
10-30-2008, 01:00 AM
I'm not even responding to that up there^

AWWW common let's ignite the fuels of war... BURN BABY BURN! LOL



By "King of Consoles" I do mean in sales/market share terms. Personally I prefer the 360's current lineup(Which is now quite substantial, varied and critically acclaimed. Playing Fable II right now and it's "Epic"), PS3's second (Handful of TOP quality exclusives, MGS4, LBP, GoW, GT) and the Wii's a farrr third(Metroid, Mario, Zelda and mini-games!), but obviously Joe Public disagrees.

In that case then you are right. I think people need to realize that it's one thing for the wii to be selling the most consoles, and a very different thing to call it the BEST console. The sales part there's no arguing, but saying it's the best will never be anything more than an opinion, one which many of us don't agree with I might add.

yusky03
10-30-2008, 02:13 AM
Well, at launch I would agree with this guy, but now... dunno. I mean, the main problem for me backthen was, that there was no software to support it. It's getting better and better though, and Sony seems to concentrate more on the games now then they might did before.

And I have to be honest with you, I love the blu-ray's also.

I get a new one almost every week. Now that my home theater is almost complete. Seeing as I already have a PS3 a price drop does not help... More games please!

Rotmm
10-30-2008, 03:01 AM
I think Sony themselves realise they have devalued the Playstation name and have taken steps to re-establish it.

A simple change is that now, in their TV advertising for games like LBP, there's a really cool "flyover" effect of the PS3 logo. It's a small thing in itself, but it will embed the brand again over time.

DemonSurfer
10-30-2008, 05:37 AM
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LOL.. this is hilarious :D

msanchez
10-30-2008, 05:59 AM
What kind of fucking screw-ups you have running this bullshit website?!! **** this ****, man!!!! I'm not coming to this motherfucking corrupted web **** site again!! This website this going to oblivion very soon!!! You got lots of balls to run this useless site!!! I'm outta here!!! Logging out for good and kiss my ass goodbye of this faggot **** MaxCocksole.com. And you can have two. "****" and "You"!!!! (middle finger up)

LOL.. this is hilarious :D

Bi-Polar :confused:

EliteStance
10-30-2008, 07:10 AM
PS3 is crap... games are buggy and poor quality compared to 360.
Don't try to fool yourself into thinking it's good because it costs more!
Your wrong... face it you made a big mistake buying a PS3...
360 has better graphics ( not that graphics affect gameplay ) and Wii has better gameplay...
People don't want some gay Blu-Ray player that plays 2nd rate games as an after thought....
You can buy a proper Blu-Ray player for £99 or Freesat or even Sky HD.
It's so bad that Sony have to bribe people to get good reviews.

Ah, but its so easy to say...

PS3 ports were poor but are now the same while it enjoys excellent exclusives such as Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, LBP, Grand Turismo, etc.
I'm right... I'm enjoying playing my games, watching HD movies on my HD TV, using my PS3 as a media centre, etc.
PS3 is a better console because for its extra cost I get an electronic device designed such that it doesn't regularly break down and suffer numerous engineering issues and includes the ability to view HD films as well as play HD games - which is handy as I have a nice HD TV and don't want to clutter the floor around it with multiple boxes and lots of cables (like say a big hot brick of an external power unit)
PS3 offers a good online gaming experience for free and a great online movie store
PS3 doesn't need to buy games/DLC to try and force people to choose a known to be poor quality piece of electronics over one that is well made in a money fuelled attempt to push into a market that puts speed and growth over acceptable consumer service levels for rate of failure

Anyway, a console with only a small subset of truly good games, a fun game play gimmick and SD graphics would appear to be the consumers popular choice anyway so why worry.

Cue
10-30-2008, 07:14 AM
In that case then I agree with your opinion. I think people need to realize that it's one thing for the wii to be selling the most consoles, and a very different thing to call it the BEST console. The sales part there's no arguing, but saying it's the best will never be anything more than an opinion, one which many of us don't agree with I might add.

I agree with Wii being the best. :D
When it comes to having people round we always play Wii which i always thought was the purpose of a console from the time I use to visit friends house to play streets of rage or the original mariokart.

People argued that it was "average joe" buying the original PS over the 64 I use to be one of them but I learn't that nothing gives me the right to call them that or that I'm somehow in the know and they are not. As you said its all opinion at the end of the day but you cannot dismiss peoples opinions by calling them average joe.

Asuga
10-30-2008, 07:23 AM
Real men ( yes hetro's ) buy 360's and Wii's
Real men don't troll forums in news posts for a console they don't have.

billysastard
10-30-2008, 09:34 AM
Bi-Polar :confused:

well, bi-something ;)


hopefully he's locked himself back in his closet now :D

Calidrifter
10-30-2008, 09:38 AM
HAHA Comparable online eh? Going to get better? Same shitty PSN I have been using since launch hasn't changed. the PSN sucks, and is nothing like Live. When I need to wait 15-20 minues on Live to play a game, then I'll retract my statement (happened with Socom for me an multiple others). I would happily pay for both Live and PSN for a year, as of right now all games that come out that are multiplayer I'll buy for the 360, because of Live. Sure live has gone down at times, but I am not complaining getting a free month for a few hours downtime. Every new online game that comes out for the Ps3 seems to crash (LBP for example.)
Hmm, the funny thing is, I haven't had a problem with the online. It don't take me 15 to 20 mins to play games online with the PSN. Are you sure you have a PS3 and are using the PSN???:eek: What your saying is, its cool if live goes down "AT TIMES" but if the PSN goes down, its utter garbage? I guess... I just don't agree with your logic here

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 03:36 AM
Ah, but its so easy to say...

PS3 ports were poor but are now the same while it enjoys excellent exclusives such as Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, LBP, Grand Turismo, etc.
I'm right... I'm enjoying playing my games, watching HD movies on my HD TV, using my PS3 as a media centre, etc.
PS3 is a better console because for its extra cost I get an electronic device designed such that it doesn't regularly break down and suffer numerous engineering issues and includes the ability to view HD films as well as play HD games - which is handy as I have a nice HD TV and don't want to clutter the floor around it with multiple boxes and lots of cables (like say a big hot brick of an external power unit)
PS3 offers a good online gaming experience for free and a great online movie store
PS3 doesn't need to buy games/DLC to try and force people to choose a known to be poor quality piece of electronics over one that is well made in a money fuelled attempt to push into a market that puts speed and growth over acceptable consumer service levels for rate of failure.

With the exception of the BluRay players, everything you said also equates to the 360. HD games? Check. HD films? Check. Online movie store? Check (and better) Media player? Check.

Also, it seems that (for the most part) the rrod thing has been sorted.

So we're at the point where if you want the most powerful games console, with the widest variety of games, then the 360 is obviously the way to go. If you want a games machine that doesn't quite match up to the best but that also plays BluRay content, then it's the PS3.

Cue
10-31-2008, 06:08 AM
With the exception of the BluRay players, everything you said also equates to the 360. HD games? Check. HD films? Check. Online movie store? Check (and better) Media player? Check.

Also, it seems that (for the most part) the rrod thing has been sorted.

So we're at the point where if you want the most powerful games console, with the widest variety of games, then the 360 is obviously the way to go. If you want a games machine that doesn't quite match up to the best but that also plays BluRay content, then it's the PS3.

subjective pal, have you not learnt anything from this thread.

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 06:27 AM
subjective pal, have you not learnt anything from this thread.

Not at all. It's the best balanced in terms of architecture, memory management and rendering abilities.

Cue
10-31-2008, 06:34 AM
Not at all. It's the best balanced in terms of architecture, memory management and rendering abilities.

are you saying its not subjective. Really... REEAAAALLLYY.

lets play a littile game shall we:

The PS3 is the most balanced console there is. Cell is better than PowerPC. Netflix has crap movies compared to whats available on Blu-ray and the PSN. The PS3 has Deep Colour and better sound and its memory is XDR and NOT shared which is better than shared slower memory.


ALL FACTS up there.

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 07:13 AM
are you saying its not subjective. Really... REEAAAALLLYY.

lets play a littile game shall we:

The PS3 is the most balanced console there is. Cell is better than PowerPC. Netflix has crap movies compared to whats available on Blu-ray and the PSN. The PS3 has Deep Colour and better sound and its memory is XDR and NOT shared which is better than shared slower memory.


ALL FACTS up there.

Yes, lets. The PowerPC is a multi-threaded triple-core general purpose processor based on an architecture that has been a proven games platform for 2 dozen years, whereas the Cell is a single-core dual-threaded general purpose processor, with 6 SPU's that are limited in scope and are best at repetitive tasks, not something that games can generally take much advantage of.

Netflix? BluRay? Deep Color?

Sorry, I thought I was talking about gaming. You've gone fallen back to the standard "media player" position, as per standard Sony PR.

As for XDR, if it was on the GPU then it may make a difference. As it is, the only "benefit" of XDR is to make up for the bus issues of transferring tasks to the various SPU's.

But of course, this is no match for giving the developers the power over where they feel the memory-mix is best utilised for their specific game.

Edit: Oh, and even though the PS3 GPU memory is rated the same as on the 360, the fact that the data has to travel over a 128bit bus does hamper performance further, and was clearly a cost vs performance decision that Sony got wrong.

Cue
10-31-2008, 07:47 AM
Yes, lets. The PowerPC is a multi-threaded triple-core general purpose processor based on an architecture that has been a proven games platform for 2 dozen years, whereas the Cell is a single-core dual-threaded general purpose processor, with 6 SPU's that are limited in scope and are best at repetitive tasks, not something that games can generally take much advantage of.

Netflix? BluRay? Deep Color?

Sorry, I thought I was talking about gaming. You've gone fallen back to the standard "media player" position, as per standard Sony PR.

As for XDR, if it was on the GPU then it may make a difference. As it is, the only "benefit" of XDR is to make up for the bus issues of transferring tasks to the various SPU's.

But of course, this is no match for giving the developers the power over where they feel the memory-mix is best utilised for their specific game.

Edit: Oh, and even though the PS3 GPU memory is rated the same as on the 360, the fact that the data has to travel over a 128bit bus does hamper performance further, and was clearly a cost vs performance decision that Sony got wrong.

Don't go all "beterweter" on me; intentionally/blindly miss the point and try and spout random things which are irrelavent at me.

WhyTF are you posting some wikipedia article in this thread. ITS IRRELEVANT since I can just as well say the disadvantages of a PowerPC over Cell.

Do you even know the defenition of a core?
the Cell is an 8-Core (octa-core) but that didn't sound better than Triple-core so you avoided it right?
You can sell it how you like just as I can avoid facts or emphasize them to shove my point to you. Ignore sound like you did.

I can turn "a proven games platform for 2 dozen years" to "Very old tech"
IT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING

I can talk about latencies and bandwidth how the general processing power of the Cell is better... I can sell it the same way as you did BUT
Before this turns to a very long thread of exchanges about which is "better" (like it does with most people here)
heres something I'm going to say before I stop replying at all
"I DON'T CARE"

about the Media playback look at what I replied to. did you not mention it?

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 01:46 PM
Do you even know the defenition of a core?
the Cell is an 8-Core (octa-core) but that didn't sound better than Triple-core so you avoided it right?

Well, I would have done exactly that had I been (a) Sony PR or (b) a Sony shill.

However, to just call it an 8-Core processor would lead one to the impression that all the cores are equal. Whereas the truth is that one is (to use the analogy) a standard, intelligent adult, whereas the rest are autistic children.

Cue
10-31-2008, 03:43 PM
Well, I would have done exactly that had I been (a) Sony PR or (b) a Sony shill.

However, to just call it an 8-Core processor would lead one to the impression that all the cores are equal. Whereas the truth is that one is (to use the analogy) a standard, intelligent adult, whereas the rest are autistic children.


So your definition of a core is "must be same as others and not autistic (whatever the f*ck thats suppose to mean)"
Whatever mate your definition is wrong.
any real computer engineer would tell you that the Cell is a multi-core processor so its you who seems to be
a) a MS PR
b) a MS shill

but like I said "I DONT CARE"
just warning you that your definition is complete BS.

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 04:11 PM
Whatever mate your definition is wrong.

Clearly not.


but like I said "I DONT CARE"

Clearly not.


just warning you that your definition is complete BS.

Clearly not.

Cue
10-31-2008, 04:21 PM
Clearly not.



Clearly not.



Clearly not.



So what about this part


so its you who seems to be
a) a MS PR
b) a MS shill
I'll take that as clearly yes then.


Right that's it no more replying from me. feel free to post more BS for all the unsuspecting readers.

Key word here: Multi core, 9 threads on the Cell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_(computing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor
I would have posted an IBM source but you would throw a hissy fit even though the PowerPC is developed by them aswell

Keep feeding the people BS MS personnel

Rotmm
10-31-2008, 04:42 PM
I'll take that as clearly yes then.

Nope. You can let your employers know if that's what they require.


Right that's it no more replying from me.

Good stuff.


feel free to post more BS for all the unsuspecting readers.

Ah, "unsuspecting readers", as opposed to you, who is uninformed, untruthful, unintelligent and... well, just plain ignorant unfortunately.