Sony on PSN: It's about quality not quantity

[Zeus]

John Hight recently tried to explain why PSN hasn't been swamped with games recently. Hight began by saying that Sony is very careful about what they add to the catalog, they didn't wish to create a needle in the haystick situation in which there was just a few games hidden amongst thousands of poor ones. Through this approach it is believed they will create special experiences each and every time.



The resulting PSN service hasn’t been overwhelmed with games. It’s not stuffed with the volume of games that are on XBLA, and Hight said that was by design. “We’re very careful about the stuff we add to our catalog. Early on as a company we decided it’s not going to be about giant numbers and ‘Hey, come to PlayStation Network and you’ll have 5000 games, maybe three of which you actually want. Go ahead and find that needle in the haystack.’ It’s more about each one of these experiences is something special.”

He said it would be place that would help Sony — and presumably gamers — find “your next Will Wright and David Jaffe.”


News Source: <A href="http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/02/18/playstation-exec-talks-psn-finding-the-next-will-wright/" target="_blank">MTV</a>

[XxBigP123xX]

We need more games like SS HD and everyday shooter.

And where's the PS1 games sony?:(

[bhetrick]

John Hight recently tried to explain why PSN hasn't been swamped with games recently. Hight began by saying that Sony is very careful about what they add to the catalog, they didn't wish to create a needle in the haystick situation in which there was just a few games hidden amongst thousands of poor ones.


Shouldn't it be about the CONSUMERS picking the games they want out of the haystack, and not Sony doing it for them?

[Rockman_Joey]

John Hight recently tried to explain why PSN hasn't been swamped with games recently. Hight began by saying that Sony is very careful about what they add to the catalog, they didn't wish to create a needle in the haystick situation in which there was just a few games hidden amongst thousands of poor ones. Through this approach it is believed they will create special experiences each and every time.



News Source: <A href="http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/02/18/playstation-exec-talks-psn-finding-the-next-will-wright/" target="_blank">MTV</a>

Thats true, PSN Demos + PSN Games - Go! Sports Series - Rampart - Championship Sprint = No **** Games and good service

[danight]

Shouldn't it be about the CONSUMERS picking the games they want out of the haystack, and not Sony doing it for them?

I agree. people might think pac-man sucks. But there is still people who enjoy it and would buy it, if it was offered.

[N1GHTRA1N]

Quality isn't there yet IMHO either. I mean there are a ton of games I'd consider buying if I could just get a demo. No demos for games you sell on PSN is lame, espeically since XBLA has demos for every game.

[whackawookie]

quality? what about pain. i had huge hopes for this game but its a priced demo. you get one stage to throw your guy around, thats it. give the consumer what they want and consider is quality not what you do because you'd be surprised what people really want

[Nismo34]

Has anyone tried SkyDiving on PSN? I love it :)

If not, someone wanna trade for it?

[Kamalot]

Hey, I'm all about quality. Just give me some goddamn demos first. I'm not paying you blindly based on what YOU claim is quality software.

If you are so confident that you are offering quality products, then you should give us an opportunity to TRY them first.

Overall though, the secret is Quality among Quantity. If you pick Quality instead of Quantity, you are left with a lineup straight out of the N64 era. Quality didn't win you the PS1 and PS2 generation. The Quantity of titles that appealed to a diverse audience with different taste opened up the success of your platforms.

[chucky_uk]

Hey, I'm all about quality. Just give me some goddamn demos first. I'm not paying you blindly based on what YOU claim is quality software.

If you are so confident that you are offering quality products, then you should give us an opportunity to TRY them first.

Overall though, the secret is Quality among Quantity. If you pick Quality instead of Quantity, you are left with a lineup straight out of the N64 era. Quality didn't win you the PS1 and PS2 generation. The Quantity of titles that appealed to a diverse audience with different taste opened up the success of your platforms.

Well said, i agree with everything you said.

[Attitude]

I was about to post a comment then thought...... what is the point when all this crap from sony and M$ about who is better than who makes them both look like piss poor fanboys with some form of masturbation frustration.

I would just love for them both to just shut the **** up once in a while and concentrate on improving both their sometimes good, but usually poor online stores.

[Nismo34]

Quality didn't win you the PS1 and PS2 generation.
What?!

Metal Gear Solid were huge hits on both PS1 and PS2, PS3 will follow suite.

Final Fantasy were huge hits on both PS1 and PS2, again PS3 will follow.

Gran Turismo were huge hits on both PS1 and PS2, guess what? PS3 will continue it.

Need I continue before you open your big mouth again?

[felixm477]

What?!

Metal Gear Solid were huge hits on both PS1 and PS2, PS3 will follow suite.

Final Fantasy were huge hits on both PS1 and PS2, again PS3 will follow.

Gran Turismo were... oh yea, big hits on both PS1 and PS2, guess what? PS3 will continue it.

Need I continue before you open your big mouth again?

wow talk about an idiot you mentioned how many good games 3 from the how many in the library? 3 out of thousands. he was trying to say the only reason the ps1 and ps2 really made the win was because it has an endless amount of games to play even if they mostly all sucked there was enough to get everyone playing a playstation. i guess sony is either too cheap to afford the psn bandwidth or their developers just dont care to bother with demos for the psn store. either way i find it funny that the ONLY content that really gets updated on the psn store is the stuff sony has a price tag on.

[Nismo34]

wow talk about an idiot you mentioned how many good games 3 from the how many in the library? 3 out of thousands. he was trying to say the only reason the ps1 and ps2 really made the win was because it has an endless amount of games to play even if they mostly all sucked there was enough to get everyone playing a playstation. i guess sony is either too cheap to afford the psn bandwidth or their developers just dont care to bother with demos for the psn store. either way i find it funny that the ONLY content that really gets updated on the psn store is the stuff sony has a price tag on.
Why don't you just take at look at when PSN first started, now look at it, it has grown vastly, and you can't really talk, M$ charging people to play a flash game made ages ago? sad.

[Shinobe]

Hight began by saying that Sony is very careful about what they add to the catalog, they didn't wish to create a needle in the haystick situation in which there was just a few games hidden amongst thousands of poor ones. Through this approach it is believed they will create special experiences each and every time.


Do you smell that? What is it? It smells like bullsh*t.

I want more games on PSN douche bag!!

Being a owner of a PS3 is still very frustrating, personally, I have yet to find that "needle" in your sub-decent collections of games on the PSN.

Don't kid yourself, everytime I look over the fence, there is "something" being released on the Live service that isn't coming to PSN.

[RiPPn]

3 games I bought blindly were Go Soduko, Go Puzzle, and Piyotama and for the most part they are great games. I purchased 4 other games and thats when they were on sale for half price, and those are Everyday Shooter, Calling All Cars, Flow, and Pixel Junk Racers, and of those the only one I really like is Everyday Shooter, but since they were so cheap I have no regrets. There are other games I would like to buy if I had a chance to try especially Bowling, Go Skydiving and Go Skiing, but with out the ability to try them first, I'll pass until there is another sale.

Microsoft is so far ahead of Sony when it comes to Xbox Live content compared to PSN content. Microsoft has a demo available for every xbox live game as well as every retail game. And I can't stand how disorganized the PSN store is, it gives me a headache navigating around it. That being said, if Sony can improve this as well as with the launch of home and in game XMB they will finally have a product that is par with what Microsoft charges for, this should make things quite interesting come Christmas '08.

And Championship Pac Man is one of my fave Xbox Live Arcade games, don't knock it until you have tried it cause it is fun as hell.

[felixm477]

Why don't you just take at look at when PSN first started, now look at it, it has grown vastly, and you can't really talk, M$ charging people to play a flash game made ages ago? sad.

well considering the quality of live ide say its money well spent atleast it goes into expanding servers and bandwidth for their demos which as far as i kno they have 1 for every game they sell, as for psn you get what you pay for limited demos..

[Nismo34]

well considering the quality of live ide say its money well spent atleast it goes into expanding servers and bandwidth for their demos which as far as i kno they have 1 for every game they sell, as for psn you get what you pay for limited demos..
....That makes sense, maybe because they are D-E-M-O's

Also if it really goes towards expanding bandwidth, why do many people report so much lag online huh? money well spent indeed.

[n0rthstar]

I would echo what others have said here, people would rather pick and choose what THEY want from a VAST library of old PS1 and PS2 games etc.

Lets face it, crud like Final Fantasty 621 and Final Fantasy Special Edition 889 isnt going to win anyone but the Japs over, people want to see some GOOD games not the Jap cr4p... those games might win over the geeks of the gameplaying world, but the majority of gamers arent geeks anymore.

[felixm477]

....That makes sense, maybe because they are D-E-M-O's

Also if it really goes towards expanding bandwidth, why do many people report so much lag online huh? money well spent indeed.

limited as in NOT ENOUGH DEMOS TO CHOOSE FROM. I hope you go tthat, as for lag you DO understand that not everyone is in the same city,state,heck maybe not even the same country as yourself, in online games your only as good as your weakest link which means if you have someone lagging along on a slow connection then your going to get impacted aswell, im talking about overall bandwidth like when a popular demo hits live i wont expect too much clutter, but if it hits PSN then i usualy wait a day or 2 till i download heck it takes forever to get a firmware update with everyone downloading at the same time.

[Nismo34]

limited as in NOT ENOUGH DEMOS TO CHOOSE FROM. I hope you go tthat, as for lag you DO understand that not everyone is in the same city,state,heck maybe not even the same country as yourself, in online games your only as good as your weakest link which means if you have someone lagging along on a slow connection then your going to get impacted aswell, im talking about overall bandwidth like when a popular demo hits live i wont expect too much clutter, but if it hits PSN then i usualy wait a day or 2 till i download heck it takes forever to get a firmware update with everyone downloading at the same time.
PSN has plenty of demos and counting, and I DO understand that lag occurs more when player cross-continents, it still refers me back to the question, how come Resistance online with 40 people has no lag at all and people complain about a few matches on Halo 3?

Also the firmware dowloads only take about 5-10 minutes for me, hardly precious time either.

[Kamalot]

wow talk about an idiot you mentioned how many good games 3 from the how many in the library? 3 out of thousands. he was trying to say the only reason the ps1 and ps2 really made the win was because it has an endless amount of games to play even if they mostly all sucked there was enough to get everyone playing a playstation. i guess sony is either too cheap to afford the psn bandwidth or their developers just dont care to bother with demos for the psn store. either way i find it funny that the ONLY content that really gets updated on the psn store is the stuff sony has a price tag on.

Thank you. Nobody was saying that quality games didn't exist on the PS1 and PS2, but quality alone wasn't the factor in their overwhelming success. Of the 120 MILLION PS2s sold, only a small number of people purchased Metal Gear Solid 2 for the system (around 5.56 million). PS2's massive success comes from having something to offer everyone, not a few key 'quality' games that appeal to all.

If there was only 'quality' programming on the TV, then there wouldn't even be enough to fill up a single channel all day long. Yet there is enough television to keep hundreds of millions of people watching all the time. Any game system that wants broad appeal needs to appeal to wide and diverse tastes, just like the PS1 and PS2 did.

Here's an interesting exercise. Average up all the review scores from all the games on the PS2 and all the games on the Dreamcast. Which one has a higher review score average?

[bhetrick]

and you can't really talk, M$ charging people to play a flash game made ages ago? sad.



That's the point. On LIVE, that game IS there to purchase if someone feels inclined to do so. People aren't given a handful of games which the company see fit to offer. There's a lot of games, whether it was a huge hit or not.

And of course MS is going to charge for games. Are you saying Sony gives games away for free?

[RiPPn]

PSN has plenty of demos and counting.

Also the firmware dowloads only take about 5-10 minutes for me, hardly precious time either.


Wow if you think the PSN has plenty of demos, you best not touch a 360, as your head would probably explode when you saw how many demos are available on there.

And 5 - 10 minutes is way to long, even when Microsoft releases it's spring and fall updates, and everyone pounds the servers for them, it doesn't take that long, and even worse is when you try and download a 1 gig demo, Sony could definitely improve this area.

[felixm477]

Thank you. Nobody was saying that quality games didn't exist on the PS1 and PS2, but quality alone wasn't the factor in their overwhelming success. Of the 120 MILLION PS2s sold, only a small number of people purchased Metal Gear Solid 2 for the system (around 5.56 million). PS2's massive success comes from having something to offer everyone, not a few key 'quality' games that appeal to all.

If there was only 'quality' programming on the TV, then there wouldn't even be enough to fill up a single channel all day long. Yet there is enough television to keep hundreds of millions of people watching all the time. Any game system that wants broad appeal needs to appeal to wide and diverse tastes, just like the PS1 and PS2 did.

Here's an interesting exercise. Average up all the review scores from all the games on the PS2 and all the games on the Dreamcast. Which one has a higher review score average?

i dont have the time to group together the endless ps2 titles but right off the bat in memory ide say the dreamcast had higher reviews, it has a the smaller library with quite a few amazing games, if i was to guess how much the ps2's total library averaged i would say somewhere around 3-4 out of a 10 scale.

[Nismo34]

That's the point. On LIVE, that game IS there to purchase if someone feels inclined to do so. People aren't given a handful of games which the company see fit to offer. There's a lot of games, whether it was a huge hit or not.

And of course MS is going to charge for games. Are you saying Sony gives games away for free?
Are you saying that M$ didn't take a flash game, upload it to Live and slap a price (er point) tag on it?

[Nismo34]

Wow if you think the PSN has plenty of demos, you best not touch a 360, as your head would probably explode when you saw how many demos are available on there.

And 5 - 10 minutes is way to long, even when Microsoft releases it's spring and fall updates, and everyone pounds the servers for them, it doesn't take that long, and even worse is when you try and download a 1 gig demo, Sony could definitely improve this area.
Obviously it isn't exactly 5-10 minutes, I set it to download the update then I go make a cup of tea or something because it's usually in the morning, by the time I come back it's already waiting for the prompt to update.

[chucky_uk]

Why dont the mods just have the bollox and start banning people for good.

Get rid of this nismo34 because he just spams, and wont listen to anything anyone has to say.

And please people dont quote him, as i have him on ignore and i just dont want to read his post's

Mods you are a joke:mad: on these forums, you have no control and have no bollox to actually clean these forums up of the pathetic fanboys:mad:.

[kneehighspy]

....That makes sense, maybe because they are D-E-M-O's

Also if it really goes towards expanding bandwidth, why do many people report so much lag online huh? money well spent indeed.


wait till people finally start using psn, home should help that. sony will either start charging to be able to keep up with hardware, bandwidth and tech support demands or psn will go the way of public bbs's.

personally i don't mind a small monthly fee, $4 or so a month is nothing. to someone who doesn't work, doesn't have a bank account or is too young to work, sure it's perhaps alot of money.

by the first of 2009, psn will not be free, that will be written in stone by this fall.

[kneehighspy]

Obviously it isn't exactly 5-10 minutes, I set it to download the update then I go make a cup of tea or something because it's usually in the morning, by the time I come back it's already waiting for the prompt to update.

everytime sony releases a new firmware update it's almost 120mb. i will just normally download it on my laptop, copy it to an sd card and update my ps3 that way. it takes too long to do it all on the ps3.


congratulations on the new ban too, looks good on you.

[AceMilo]

Why dont the mods just have the bollox and start banning people for good.

Get rid of this nismo34 because he just spams, and wont listen to anything anyone has to say.

And please people dont quote him, as i have him on ignore and i just dont want to read his post's

Mods you are a joke:mad: on these forums, you have no control and have no bollox to actually clean these forums up of the pathetic fanboys:mad:.

You seem to overestimate what we can do. We just got the ability to ban users about 3 weeks ago which is why a lot of idiots are gone now to begin with. We cannot ban by ip we have to petition the admins to do that and it rarely happens. I have no power over ppl with no lives who will sit here and keep making new names except just keep banning them.

[kneehighspy]

You seem to overestimate what we can do. We just got the ability to ban users about 3 weeks ago which is why a lot of idiots are gone now to begin with. We cannot ban by ip we have to petition the admins to do that and it rarely happens. I have no power over ppl with no lives who will sit here and keep making new names except just keep banning them.



i agree, but it doesn't take long to figure out those who were banned that come back with new accounts. as soon as the first post, we can usually figure out who is who.

alot of the banned users lack creativity and intelligence to atleast change their way of doing things and what they say.

but just keep hitting that ban button on them please, it's getting ridiculous with what some of these fanboys are saying and the arguments they start. it's amazing what the power of being anonymous will do to people with how they act.

it's like someone drinking too much then they feel like they are ten feet tall and invincible.

[ammmmn]

hahahahahahahha hahahaha hahahahahah

that is like saying, well we FAILED but we will say something cliché "quality over quantity" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[AceMilo]

hahahahahahahha hahahaha hahahahahah

that is like saying, well we FAILED but we will say something cliché "quality over quantity" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Wow you're clever. How about adding to the conversation instead of making yourself look like an idiot.

[Rotmm]

I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Surely it's all about quantity and quality, that's what is going to win the game for Sony.

And with 180 PSN titles promised for release by March 08 (ie: next month) and Sony's stance on quality, then it's a win for everyone.

[sactown-sav]

I want to know sony's excuse for their ps3 games.... No quality OR quantity...

[Mikazuna]

I'm happy with PSN, that's all that matters to me.

[zymologist]

You seem to overestimate what we can do. We just got the ability to ban users about 3 weeks ago which is why a lot of idiots are gone now to begin with. We cannot ban by ip we have to petition the admins to do that and it rarely happens. I have no power over ppl with no lives who will sit here and keep making new names except just keep banning them.

the forums are certainly in a pretty sad state right now (not that I'm blaming you), it seems like in most 360 threads half of every page worth of responses is on my ignore list. too many retarded fanboys with nothing better to do.

I dont suppose there's in option in the forum software to properly ignore posts by ignored users? I dont really want a page with half of the posts hidden, I dont even want to know the idiots posted

[AceMilo]

the forums are certainly in a pretty sad state right now (not that I'm blaming you), it seems like in most 360 threads half of every page worth of responses is on my ignore list. too many retarded fanboys with nothing better to do.

I dont suppose there's in option in the forum software to properly ignore posts by ignored users? I dont really want a page with half of the posts hidden, I dont even want to know the idiots posted

I know it. When I, or other mods, take action we get ripped on for being fanboys or dictators, but when we do nothing we get ripped on for that so I know I can't really win.

[Blazeking]

I regret ever buying Pain. That was more like a damn demo. The skins are nice but I want new a new level(s) ASAP.

[DEDDOA]

Persoanlly i think that PSN iis lacking both quality and quantity. i rarely if ever bother going on there these days. Not only is it very dated in design (should have been part of the PS3 interface and not just a clunky web page) but it rarely if ever has anything worthwhile on it. I'm not expecting XBL but at least they could keep up on the demo front. Personally my only plus for PSN was tekken 5: DR, but i still don't see why i had to install it as well after I download it.

[JohnsShadow]

John Hight recently tried to explain why PSN hasn't been swamped with games recently. Hight began by saying that Sony is very careful about what they add to the catalog, they didn't wish to create a needle in the haystick situation in which there was just a few games hidden amongst thousands of poor ones. Through this approach it is believed they will create special experiences each and every time.



News Source: <A href="http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/02/18/playstation-exec-talks-psn-finding-the-next-will-wright/" target="_blank">MTV</a>


BULL SH*T
pixel junk racers
pain
everyday shooter
go sports anything
every clasic game (they all have that f*cking beep)
toy home
blast factor

i refuse to buy things without a demmo or a trade now
so much crap

[rgbsf1337]

Flow, Pixel Junk Monsters, Populous and Theme Hospital are ace games on the PSN. yeah more games and demos would be better but Home will own all, free pool, bowling, arcades, boxing and probably more. cinemas, public meeting areas and private areas which can be customized, have cool, 360 fanboys will love to have this. Home FTW lol

[MicroNut]

I am Biased.
I want WipEout HD (http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item75516/WipEout%E2%84%A2-HD/)
Supposed to be released in DEC07
I want games.
I don't care about needle in a haystack crap excuses.

[kneehighspy]

Flow, Pixel Junk Monsters, Populous and Theme Hospital are ace games on the PSN. yeah more games and demos would be better but Home will own all, free pool, bowling, arcades, boxing and probably more. cinemas, public meeting areas and private areas which can be customized, have cool, 360 fanboys will love to have this. Home FTW lol


i have a 360 i don't want home on it. i have a ps3, i don't want home on it. a lot of us don't care for a clone of the second life virtual people simulator. i had this sort of 'fun' on my apple 2e back in '82 or '83 with little computer people.

i would think that most would hope home gets delayed, once home releases, i'm sure slightly there after (late fall or early '09) sony will announce that psn will no longer be free and have a two tier price structure. sony is not gonna want to continue to eat hardware, bandwidth and tech support costs forever. so i would probably be prepared to pay $3 or $4 a month for the virtual people simulator, but i guess it'll be worth it :rolleyes:

[rgbsf1337]

i have a 360 i don't want home on it. i have a ps3, i don't want home on it. a lot of us don't care for a clone of the second life virtual people simulator. i had this sort of 'fun' on my apple 2e back in '82 or '83 with little computer people.

i would think that most would hope home gets delayed, once home releases, i'm sure slightly there after (late fall or early '09) sony will announce that psn will no longer be free and have a two tier price structure. sony is not gonna want to continue to eat hardware, bandwidth and tech support costs forever. so i would probably be prepared to pay $3 or $4 a month for the virtual people simulator, but i guess it'll be worth it :rolleyes:

100% can't see it happening, if sony wanted to charge people for psn it would of been done at the release of the ps3. sony are like ms both companies are money grabbers. rumours have had sony making a paying system but the rumour was only about a better service. the rumour had one service free with less content and updates and the paying service with more. but its a RUMOUR so i can't see it happening at all. if they wanted to it would of been done by now.

[rgbsf1337]

i have a 360 i don't want home on it. i have a ps3, i don't want home on it. a lot of us don't care for a clone of the second life virtual people simulator. i had this sort of 'fun' on my apple 2e back in '82 or '83 with little computer people.

i would think that most would hope home gets delayed, once home releases, i'm sure slightly there after (late fall or early '09) sony will announce that psn will no longer be free and have a two tier price structure. sony is not gonna want to continue to eat hardware, bandwidth and tech support costs forever. so i would probably be prepared to pay $3 or $4 a month for the virtual people simulator, but i guess it'll be worth it :rolleyes:

you must have something wrong with you if you don't want home. ms is making a cheap, shitty, smaller version of home for 360, december release. reasons for it being small, only 5 months of development, so be working on it in other areas after release same as home and no private areas, cinemas and games rooms.

[kneehighspy]

you must have something wrong with you if you don't want home. ms is making a cheap, shitty, smaller version of home for 360, december release. reasons for it being small, only 5 months of development, so be working on it in other areas after release same as home and no private areas, cinemas and games rooms.


nope, nothing wrong here. personally i see home as just a waste of time, money (for sony) and disc space for end users. i for one do not need a second life clone on my ps3, i've tried it on my pc once and it truly is horrible.

i don't need a cumbersome way to check my 'achievements', play online games and text / chat with other users. a simple interface will suffice. i currently hate the way i have to get onto the psn store with my ps3. a crappy 'web like' interface that is cumbersome to use and slow to update is not my way of wanting to download and spend my money.

a simple text / graphics screen will do. i'm no xbot, but i do like the way xbl works now. you can get in, look for whats new, browse, select and download, all very quick and easy.

if 'home' is what microsoft is even trying to consider, then that would be an utter disaster. i'm sure they will allow the users to choose which interface to use. i'm pretty sure that sony will also allow users to use home or stick with the cumbersome interface they have now.

just because someone doesn't like one of sony's ideas doesn't make them an xbox fanboy. personally home is not for me, i'm over 30 and really could care less about it. i'm sure i'm not the only 'old gamer' that feels this way.

you guys can download, install and enjoy home. i hope it's a hit for sony and everyone enjoys it. but as with all other sony plans and decisions, they come late and unexpected, so if you think it's 'too late' for sony to start charging for psn, then i've got 4 usb ports and 99% b/c in my 60gb launch ps3 i'd sell to you.

[Kamalot]

you must have something wrong with you if you don't want home. ms is making a cheap, shitty, smaller version of home for 360, december release. reasons for it being small, only 5 months of development, so be working on it in other areas after release same as home and no private areas, cinemas and games rooms.

I'm with kneehighspy. I don't see home being interesting at all, especially knowing that if I want to trick out my virtual pad I need to spend real money. To me, it seems like another way to give Sony my money, and get nothing in return.

Funny how digital distribution of movies comes along and some people say, "But I want to own a physical copy!" Yet buy a virtual sofa for a virtual room in a game system and then it is all good. :rolleyes:

[kneehighspy]

I'm with kneehighspy. I don't see home being interesting at all, especially knowing that if I want to trick out my virtual pad I need to spend real money. To me, it seems like another way to give Sony my money, and get nothing in return.

Funny how digital distribution of movies comes along and some people say, "But I want to own a physical copy!" Yet buy a virtual sofa for a virtual room in a game system and then it is all good. :rolleyes:


very true. i can't see spending my real money on virtual stuff (clothes, furniture,etc) when in real life it's already costing me a fortune with a wife and daughter.

[grapeape]

Ditto here, I have no use at all for home. Why cant some face the fact that many people just dont care for an avatar interface to their console, why in the hell would I want to talk my little character around from place to place to do something that I could do with by simply toggling the thumbstick? I guess the social aspect is fine for kids but most adults prefer actually socializing in person. I just see it as a waste of time.

BTW I wouldnt be so confident about Sony never charging, while alot of Sony fans seem to be in denial and dismiss anything done as being for Sony's greater good...Sony is still quickly gaining the reputation of pulling Bait and Switches on its customer base. Backwards Compatability was important, then it wasnt, now its coming back on a pay per title level. Rumble was last gen, now we get to buy new controllers, I fully expect Sony to slowly create a distinctive divide between a subscription based service and its "free" service probably alot sooner than most expect. I dont expect to see much fuss about it here though, as usual the majority of fanboys will claim its necessary and what they wanted all along.

[Kamalot]

Sony is still quickly gaining the reputation of pulling Bait and Switches on its customer base. Backwards Compatability was important, then it wasnt, now its coming back on a pay per title level. Rumble was last gen, now we get to buy new controllers, I fully expect Sony to slowly create a distinctive divide between a subscription based service and its "free" service probably alot sooner than most expect. I dont expect to see much fuss about it here though, as usual the majority of fanboys will claim its necessary and what they wanted all along.
I agree with everything I've quoted above. I am really confused by certain people that change their opinion about something every time they hear the new marketing speak from a big corp like Microsoft or Sony.

[JohnsShadow]

if they start charging for psn
i have a ps3 for sale
60gig 2 controllers and bunch of games all for 450
then ill take the money i get off my ps3 and buy what i wanted in the first place
a Linux computer with awesome specs
and full C++ library included

stupid non hacked pice of crap

[kneehighspy]

if they start charging for psn
i have a ps3 for sale
60gig 2 controllers and bunch of games all for 450
then ill take the money i get off my ps3 and buy what i wanted in the first place
a Linux computer with awesome specs
and full C++ library included

stupid non hacked pice of crap


just because sony may start charging for psn doesn't necessitate you selling your ps3. i wouldn't just give up and sell your system if you enjoy it. i'm sure if sony did start charging for psn, it will be a two tier system (one free / some perks, one pay / all perks). you don't have to pay if you wish not to.

but i have to agree on the linux pc :) i'm running ubuntu on my desktop and with on my alienware m9750 laptop (some issues, but workable right now).

but in all, let's keep on with the games, that's what we all enjoy.

also, in due time, in due time, the ps3 will be broken for all to enjoy. some say it won't happen, but it will. there's too much money to be made by the first to do it and no system is unbreakable.